Talked yrs ago with the Nightforce president for over an hr (phone) mostly about the Ruger #1 ( he a fan too).
Of course he has the $ to rebarrel and rework forends for max accuracy.
I always hated that angled screw and forend cranked up against the barrel.
Too bad they didn't go with a system like a Browning .......simple spacers and it no longer touches.
Think a 1B the most pretty production rifle out there. As for #1's it seems as though the varmint or heavyweights shoot the best, the in between stuff could be very iffy. I know smart guys, who can work rifles, reload...........who had fits with common deer chamberings. Some accuracy issues could not be resolved. Might have been just a bbl issue, but dang that fiorend probably didn't help.
Not all $$$ rebarreling is/was for oddball cartridges
My buddy has a 1A that is a one-holer, in .243. He had Penrod "time the action" or whatever it's called. Kind of a Rube Goldberg system if you have seen a cutaway drawing.
Recoil.................yup the old red pads don't do much and the stock design seems to drive it straight back..........I wouldn't consider them the most pleasant for cartridge design, but in the lighter stuff they aint bad......................and they look fantastic. Of course with today's new pad materials one could ease the thump with a simple swap or custom fit.............I'd only consider such a deal if it was red
Pops still has his old first style .22-250, my rig back in (got used in '78) was 2nd pad type IIRC. He's got a NIB varmint stainless lam .22-250 and he thinks it's neat. For me it totally ruins the look. The old 4 digit and earlier stuff with vertical split rings are kinda cool, they used to have nice wood on them, even better than the Liberty stuff IMHO. I'm still kicking myself for letting a '77 B in .243 slide by, and it had very nice wood. Who says kids have to eat?
But having been around and shot a few #1's..............I knew that it probably wouldn't outshoot a cheap POS $400 700 ADL synth.
That said..............I'll fork over the $ one of these days to have a custom bbl'd #1. Deer hunting I don't have to be as picky in group size............. a B&C buck with a nicely stocked #1 laying on it would make a killer pic.
Of course he has the $ to rebarrel and rework forends for max accuracy.
I always hated that angled screw and forend cranked up against the barrel.
Too bad they didn't go with a system like a Browning .......simple spacers and it no longer touches.
Think a 1B the most pretty production rifle out there. As for #1's it seems as though the varmint or heavyweights shoot the best, the in between stuff could be very iffy. I know smart guys, who can work rifles, reload...........who had fits with common deer chamberings. Some accuracy issues could not be resolved. Might have been just a bbl issue, but dang that fiorend probably didn't help.
Not all $$$ rebarreling is/was for oddball cartridges
My buddy has a 1A that is a one-holer, in .243. He had Penrod "time the action" or whatever it's called. Kind of a Rube Goldberg system if you have seen a cutaway drawing.
Recoil.................yup the old red pads don't do much and the stock design seems to drive it straight back..........I wouldn't consider them the most pleasant for cartridge design, but in the lighter stuff they aint bad......................and they look fantastic. Of course with today's new pad materials one could ease the thump with a simple swap or custom fit.............I'd only consider such a deal if it was red
Pops still has his old first style .22-250, my rig back in (got used in '78) was 2nd pad type IIRC. He's got a NIB varmint stainless lam .22-250 and he thinks it's neat. For me it totally ruins the look. The old 4 digit and earlier stuff with vertical split rings are kinda cool, they used to have nice wood on them, even better than the Liberty stuff IMHO. I'm still kicking myself for letting a '77 B in .243 slide by, and it had very nice wood. Who says kids have to eat?
But having been around and shot a few #1's..............I knew that it probably wouldn't outshoot a cheap POS $400 700 ADL synth.
That said..............I'll fork over the $ one of these days to have a custom bbl'd #1. Deer hunting I don't have to be as picky in group size............. a B&C buck with a nicely stocked #1 laying on it would make a killer pic.
