Romney warns tea party activists not to form third party

[HICKMAN]

Chuck Baldwin is the man!

 

[CarmelHP]

At least you get something right everynow and again. R's, not unlike yourself (Thankfully you haven't made it to that point yet), who finally give up on their own party and join the Libertarians, and bring along their own socially conservative, and foerign policy stances, is where the party gets weakened.
(I'll go ahead and get my flame retardent suit, and wait over here for your "scolding")

Not "scolding", you're one of the ones needing "correcting." So, dogmatic "Libertarians" (and only those Libertarians pure enough to recognize pure Libertarians are pure enough to be Libertarians) don't want anyone else joining the party because it "weakens the party." You have been wildly successful over 4 or 5 decades in keeping out non-psychotics. Keep it up! There will be plenty of room at the next convention in that Volkswagen. Congratulations! So, may only those pure enough to deserve you actually vote for you. That's approximately 7 people and 3 of those are currently institutionalized. The other 4 live in Mommy's basement.

 

[Ogre]

Not "scolding", you're one of the ones needing "correcting." So, dogmatic "Libertarians" (and only those Libertarians pure enough to recognize pure Libertarians are pure enough to be Libertarians) don't want anyone else joining the party because it "weakens the party." You have been wildly successful over 4 or 5 decades in keeping out non-psychotics. Keep it up! There will be plenty of room at the next convention in that Volkswagen. Congratulations! So, may only those pure enough to deserve you actually vote for you. That's approximately 7 people and 3 of those are currently institutionalized. The other 4 live in Mommy's basement.

Just think, what the libertarians have done to themselves over "4 or 5 decades", the Republicans have managed to do in less than 15 years. At one time the rants of a toe the line Republican would have held some weight, now they are nothing more than the opposite side to the Democrat coin. You tell me to vote for the lesser of two evils between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, no thanks, I'll vote for someone I actually want to govern the US.
Hmm, maybe your "scolding" is good, but your "correcting" needs work.

 

[rich8483]

question? how did the republican party get so big if every one is voting for the "lesser evil"? why are we not uniting more and actually electing a third party president?

there are a lot of people who call themselves democrats that go to those tea parties too. i dont think its too far fetched of an idea to get enough votes to get a third party. it not this time at least enough votes to convince the rest that voting third party isnt "throwing your vote away"

 

[CarmelHP]

Just think, what the libertarians have done to themselves over "4 or 5 decades", the Republicans have managed to do in less than 15 years. At one time the rants of a toe the line Republican would have held some weight, now they are nothing more than the opposite side to the Democrat coin. You tell me to vote for the lesser of two evils between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, no thanks, I'll vote for someone I actually want to govern the US.
Hmm, maybe your "scolding" is good, but your "correcting" needs work.

No sirree, you don't want any of the non-pure infecting your pristine party. You go ahead off in your la-la land, have a toke, and pretend that you're doing something more than play acting at winning an election with the other impotents. Winning an election would mean taking responsibility and no pure, pristine Libertarian actually wants that. They just want to whine and act all self-righteous without any work in forming coalitions with anyone who doesn't think as purely and nobly Libertarian as they, in order to actually to win an election. Nope, sit in Mama's basement, let the smoke swirl, and rant about conspiracies and how pure the party "used to be." The Libertarians are washed up without ever having actually been anything. There's only so much "correcting" I can do with the material I'm given. The Libertarian Party, it's your brain on drugs. Luckily, we now know they have a no vacancy sign out for anyone less psychotic or short-sighted than they. Happy trails.

 

[level.eleven]

Just think, what the libertarians have done to themselves over "4 or 5 decades", the Republicans have managed to do in less than 15 years. At one time the rants of a toe the line Republican would have held some weight, now they are nothing more than the opposite side to the Democrat coin. You tell me to vote for the lesser of two evils between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, no thanks, I'll vote for someone I actually want to govern the US.
Hmm, maybe your "scolding" is good, but your "correcting" needs work.

I don't know, the scolding is pretty weak as well. Mom's basement jokes? About as original as Dan Coats on the ticket. I will give him credit for holding off on the marijuana card. So many times they go straight to that play.

 

[CarmelHP]

question? how did the republican party get so big if every one is voting for the "lesser evil"? why are we not uniting more and actually electing a third party president?

there are a lot of people who call themselves democrats that go to those tea parties too. i dont think its too far fetched of an idea to get enough votes to get a third party. it not this time at least enough votes to convince the rest that voting third party isnt "throwing your vote away"

Because this isn't a parliamentary democracy. By dissipating your vote instead of joining with those with which your share some common interest, you are throwing it away. You don't get to form a coalition government later. So form your Tea Party, your Libertarian Party (no new members being accepted apparently), and whatever other sliver of a sliver can guaranty precise ideological purity while the Socialist coalition masquerading as the "Democrat Party" sweeps you aside. What a great big win for everybody to be proud of. That way you can all have your plausible deniability that you had anything to do with flushing the country down the toilet. Reforming the system as it exists is hard work and nobody is up for that.

 

[CarmelHP]

I don't know, the scolding is pretty weak as well. Mom's basement jokes? About as original as Dan Coats on the ticket. I will give him credit for holding off on the marijuana card. So many times they go straight to that play.

Well, bring it. What do you have? What great success? The party isn't even ideologically pure enough for your particular gang of cranks and crazies. That used to be your big claim. You're now reduced to whining about Republican rejects when you're not nominating them for President.

 

[rich8483]

Because this isn't a parliamentary democracy. By dissipating your vote instead of joining with those with which your share some common interest, you are throwing it away. You don't get to form a coalition government later. So form your Tea Party, your Libertarian Party (no new members being accepted apparently), and whatever other sliver of a sliver can guaranty precise ideological purity while the Socialist coalition masquerading as the "Democrat Party" sweeps you aside. What a great big win for everybody to be proud of. That way you can all have your plausible deniability that you had anything to do with flushing the country down the toilet. Reforming the system as it exists is hard work and nobody is up for that.

i have trouble with that right there. with what party do i feel ANY common interest right now.

 

[CarmelHP]

i have trouble with that right there. with what party do i feel ANY common interest right now.

You tell me. The Libertarians want you to believe that your choices in the two major parties CAN ONLY BE between a big douche and a crap sandwich, and their answer to that is Bob Barr, a crap sandwich washed down by a big douche. But it's not their fault, nothing is ever a Libertarians fault. Someone else always tricked them or there was an infiltration or conspiracy. Watching Libertarians is like watching the Special Olympics of politics. If that's your taste, enjoy. Those wanting to seriously change policy will work to forge common ground rather than splinter their efforts in order to chase some ideological purity that appears to exist only in the eye of the beholder.

 

[jsgolfman]

Libertarians are just Anarchists who couldn't commit

 

[MTC]

Libertarians are just Anarchists who couldn't commit

 

[Ogre]

Because this isn't a parliamentary democracy. By dissipating your vote instead of joining with those with which your share some common interest, you are throwing it away. You don't get to form a coalition government later. So form your Tea Party, your Libertarian Party (no new members being accepted apparently), and whatever other sliver of a sliver can guaranty precise ideological purity while the Socialist coalition masquerading as the "Democrat Party" sweeps you aside. What a great big win for everybody to be proud of. That way you can all have your plausible deniability that you had anything to do with flushing the country down the toilet. Reforming the system as it exists is hard work and nobody is up for that.

When it comes to flushing the country down the toilet, I look squarely to the Democrats AND the Republicans. You like to throw a hissy fit about 3rd partiers being the dowfall because we don't vote (R). Are you fricking kidding me? How is the mess we are in anyone but the (D)'s and (R)'s fault? And who said something about not working in the system? How would a 3rd party candidate not be working in the system? Last I checked, the Libertarian party was working on getting members elected, not staging a coup... when you speak of "Reforming the system as it exists", you must just mean, "shut up, vote in anyone with an (R) next to their name and burry your head in the sand like me, because if they have an (R) next to their name that means they aren't a (D), so they know whats best for us!"
yeah, I'm with the other guy, maybe you should change your quote as your scolding and correcting is coming off pretty weak. Whats next? are you going to tell me to go back to mommas basement to toke up or something clever like that? I mean, obviously, if I want a smaller, less intrusive govt. that spends/takes less, and more personal freedoms returned to the citizens, then I must be a stoner who wants nothing more than a 24/7 drug binge, and the overthrow of the govt....

 

[CarmelHP]

When it comes to flushing the country down the toilet, I look squarely to the Democrats AND the Republicans. You like to throw a hissy fit about 3rd partiers being the dowfall because we don't vote (R). Are you fricking kidding me? How is the mess we are in anyone but the (D)'s and (R)'s fault? And who said something about not working in the system? How would a 3rd party candidate not be working in the system? Last I checked, the Libertarian party was working on getting members elected, not staging a coup... when you speak of "Reforming the system as it exists", you must just mean, "shut up, vote in anyone with an (R) next to their name and burry your head in the sand like me, because if they have an (R) next to their name that means they aren't a (D), so they know whats best for us!"
yeah, I'm with the other guy, maybe you should change your quote as your scolding and correcting is coming off pretty weak. Whats next? are you going to tell me to go back to mommas basement to toke up or something clever like that? I mean, obviously, if I want a smaller, less intrusive govt. that spends/takes less, and more personal freedoms returned to the citizens, then I must be a stoner who wants nothing more than a 24/7 drug binge, and the overthrow of the govt....

Well, you haven't been reading, have you, apparently I have to reiterate for the Big Blue L Special Olympics Party.

1. This is not a parliamentary democracy where you got a share of seats and can form a coalition. Too complex for you? Splintering the vote just aids those who don't splinter their vote. Work to put your people in one or both of the major parties, the system we have because of the structure or the Republic. But no, you don't even want anyone joining your little L club because they may not believe as purely your particular pettifogging brand of Libertarianism.

2. You don't want less intrusive government, at least you don't want to actually work for it, or you would work to form coalitions to achieve it, but you've already said you don't want coalitions, you want to keep your party pure. Then your guys nominate Bob Barr, the turd sandwich/giant douche rolled into one. You guys are the most wacky, schizophrenic, psychotic bunch of weirdos existing. You really can't be serious, suggesting it's drug induced is giving you guys a creditable excuse.

3. Reforming the system as it exists means using the current apparatus by persuading people within the framework of the current parties even if it offends your pristine ideological purity. You don't want ex-Republicans or ex-Democrats, which make up a vast majority of voters, to dilute the purity of essence of your wacky club then you're not serious about winning elections.

4. Libertarians are all about avoiding any blame about the current situation and pontificating about their purity and blamelessness, just like you did above, because they've never actually done anything. It's the moral cowardice party, the avoidance of commitment party.

Just sit on the mountaintop and let it all go to hell and feel happy about it. The big blue L is for loser. But I've said all this before and you refuse to hear, what's new?

And I said nothing of overthrowing the government, that's your strawman. Overthrowing the government would take work and commitment to working with others less ideologically pure as you political virgins. Not things for which the L's are known.

 

[irishfan]

Commiting straight ticket to any party is a foolish way to cast your vote regardless if you are Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian. You should vote for the candidate and not their party as some elections you will have one or two from the "other" party that represent your ideas better than the person you would get straight ticket.

 

[Ogre]

Well, you haven't been reading, have you, apparently I have to reiterate for the Big Blue L Special Olympics Party.

1. This is not a parliamentary democracy where you got a share of seats and can form a coalition. Too complex for you? Splintering the vote just aids those who don't splinter their vote. Work to put your people in one or both of the major parties, the system we have because of the structure or the Republic. But no, you don't even want anyone joining your little L club because they may not believe as purely your particular pettifogging brand of Libertarianism.
The only reason the (R)'s didn't get elected was the 3rd partiers... throw your vote away... any more two party propaganda you'd like to spout off? This has nothing to do with pure ideologies as you'd like to profess, its about douchebags from either the (D)'s or (R)'s jumping on the Libertarian or Tea Party bandwagon not because of the stances aligning, but because they want to ride the momentum all the while pushing more of the same old R and D rhetoric into the Libertarian and Tea Party.

2. You don't want less intrusive government, at least you don't want to actually work for it, or you would work to form coalitions to achieve it, but you've already said you don't want coalitions, you want to keep your party pure. Then your guys nominate Bob Barr, the turd sandwich/giant douche rolled into one. You guys are the most wacky, schizophrenic, psychotic bunch of weirdos existing. You really can't be serious, suggesting it's drug induced is giving you guys a creditable excuse.
Again, you say we don't want to work for it... and the only way you say to work for less intrusive govt. is to try and get anything changed is through the two parties and to acquiesce to your omniscient Republican party...

3. Reforming the system as it exists means using the current apparatus by persuading people within the framework of the current parties even if it offends your pristine ideological purity. You don't want ex-Republicans or ex-Democrats, which make up a vast majority of voters, to dilute the purity of essence of your wacky club then you're not serious about winning elections. (see comment above)
So are you saying the Libertarians or Tea Partiers haven't purseded the D's and R's to stand up and take note??? Politicians that hate to see third parties gaining momemtum, because it does cause the same as usuall crowd to take note, and possibly change the way they vote on legislation. Even sheeple such as yourself should see this as a positive.

4. Libertarians are all about avoiding any blame about the current situation and pontificating about their purity and blamelessness, just like you did above, because they've never actually done anything. It's the moral cowardice party, the avoidance of commitment party.
You tell me how the current politica climate, governmental crisis, or economic crisis has been negatively impacted by 3rd parties. (other than the same tired rant you keep pushing). I'm pretty sure you could give many examples of where the D's or R's have had a hand in it....

Just sit on the mountaintop and let it all go to hell and feel happy about it. The big blue L is for loser. But I've said all this before and you refuse to hear, what's new?

And I said nothing of overthrowing the government, that's your strawman. Overthrowing the government would take work and commitment to working with others less ideologically pure as you political virgins. Not things for which the L's are known.

BTW, You can quit with the "Special Olympics" as a deragatory. All it does is show you to be an elitist douchebag who thinks nothing of making fun of the handicapped and disabled. That is why you're gonna get a neg. rep from me, not your politically ideals (just so you know, before you "return the favor" as you have in the past)

 

[CarmelHP]

BTW, You can quit with the "Special Olympics" as a deragatory. All it does is show you to be an elitist douchebag who thinks nothing of making fun of the handicapped and disabled. That is why you're gonna get a neg. rep from me, not your politically ideals (just so you know, before you "return the favor" as you have in the past)

Oh, what politically correct nonsense. It's not making fun of the disabled, it's making fun of you...then again...

"Oh, I'll neg rep you, but don't do it to me" just what I'd expect from the no responsibility sector. I'll not respond to your clueless BS again. It's been answered over and over and over, you don't get it. Fine.

 

[hornadylnl]

Carmel, you sure aren't winning my support with your attacks. Which party would our founders back today? I'm sure they'd back liberatarians over the repubs any day of the week. Any time a remotely liberatarian leaning person ttys to run as a repub, the repub party lynches them. Just look at the last several conservatives ruunning. The party threw them under the bus to support liberals.

 

[CarmelHP]

Carmel, you sure aren't winning my support with your attacks. Which party would our founders back today? I'm sure they'd back liberatarians over the repubs any day of the week. Any time a remotely liberatarian leaning person ttys to run as a repub, the repub party lynches them. Just look at the last several conservatives ruunning. The party threw them under the bus to support liberals.

And you and you're compatriots sure aren't winning any support by your attacks saying you don't want washed up R's and D's polluting your party though you nominate them for President. What nonsense, the inmates are in charge of the asylum. Fine, we'll leave you all alone to play with yourselves.

And what's this, "the party did this..." or "the party did that..." you mean voters? Tough, that's the way it works. Your presidential nominee WAS picked by the party, not voters, and look how that turned out. Reason is useless the big blue "L"oser party

 

[Ogre]

Oh, what politically correct nonsense. It's not making fun of the disabled, it's making fun of you...then again...

"Oh, I'll neg rep you, but don't do it to me" just what I'd expect from the no responsibility sector. I'll not respond to your clueless BS again. It's been answered over and over and over, you don't get it. Fine.

you can neg rep me every day of the week, it makes no matter to me....
So me calling you out for being an ass by using special olympics as a deragatory is me crying about being PC? You can say what you want, in fact please tell us more, it just shows the type of person you are.