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  • buckstopshere

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    Eh, maybe that's me. I've used that label several times in this thread. I think it's a fairly accurate one based on the views expressed. If you're a libertarian anarchist, wear the label with pride. Be who you are. If not...

    ETA: yes, neocons are out there...in do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do land.

    Here's a libertarian socialist (aka libertarian anarchist)


    Libertarian Socialism:

    Libertarian socialists agree with anarcho-capitalists that government is a monopoly and should be abolished, but they believe that nations should be ruled instead by work-share cooperatives or labor unions instead of corporations. The philosopher Noam Chomsky is the best known American libertarian socialist.


    If you spend any time reading posts or chatting with the folks posting I this thread, you'd learn quickly that this definition does not apply.

    You will most likely find they fall into either:

    Civil Libertarianism:

    Civil libertarians believe that the government should not pass laws that restrict, oppress, or selectively fail to protect people in their day-to-day lives. Their position can best be summed up by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' statement that "a man's right to swing his fist ends where my nose begins." In the United States, the American Civil Liberties Union represents the interests of civil libertarians. Civil libertarians may or may not also be fiscal libertarians.

    Classical Liberalism:

    Classical liberals agree with the words of the Declaration of Independence: That all people have basic human rights, and that the sole legitimate function of government is to protect those rights. Most of the Founding Fathers, and most of the European philosophers who influenced them, were classical liberals.
     

    jamil

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    And if you're a neocon, you should wear it with pride. The label neocon is much more fitting of many here than anarchist is.

    Maybe. They're just ideas about what kind of country people want to live in. I don't want my country to be all that you want. I certainly don't want it to be all that neocons want. So we vote how we vote, and argue about it here.
     

    rambone

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    Yup!

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    Yep.....

    Two sides of the same coin.

    Whether it is Roboma or Obomney that wins the election in November is of little concern to the progressive. It is simply a question of speed.

    You can make fun of My Choice of Romney all you want, but I'm not touching your Johnson!:n00b:
     

    Walt K.

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    You can make fun of My Choice of Romney all you want, but I'm not touching your Johnson!:n00b:

    LOL!

    You have no say in the matter.

    The state will tell you what Johnsons you can touch, what Johnsons you cannot and what Johnsons you will recieve and where you will take them!

    All for your own good.... of course.:D
     

    24Carat

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    Maybe it's just me, but the Romney supporters seem to be more than a bit desperate to gain support for their candidate. Almost manic in their defence of voting for him. All the while ignoring the plenitude of faults and bad history. I think they realise they chose poorly and are going to get their asses handed to them in November. Again. Desperation doesn't look good on anyone.

    Even on Paulbots? Or are they morally superior?
     

    Bapak2ja

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    Tell me again why we should support Romney and the Republican Party? Are they really any better than The Illegal President?

    RNC: Ron Paul delegates not welcome in Tampa

    Just read through what the Republicans are doing to maintain their control of this party. Do you really think these people will defend the Constitution or the republic? Does this not make it very clear that they are only concerned about maintaining their power and will continue the march toward totalitarianism, socialism and the destruction of the republic?

    Can anyone still vote for Romney and think we will have better government than we currently have?

    Seriously?
     

    Classic Liberal

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    Tell me again why we should support Romney and the Republican Party? Are they really any better than The Illegal President?

    RNC: Ron Paul delegates not welcome in Tampa

    Just read through what the Republicans are doing to maintain their control of this party. Do you really think these people will defend the Constitution or the republic? Does this not make it very clear that they are only concerned about maintaining their power and will continue the march toward totalitarianism, socialism and the destruction of the republic?

    Can anyone still vote for Romney and think we will have better government than we currently have?

    Seriously?

    Stop trying to inject logic and facts into the conversation...
     

    Bapak2ja

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    Here is another demonstration of Republicans elected by conservative voters who refused to advance conservative principles. At least five RINOs promised conservative action and gained the support of conservative voters. These legislators then governed as progressives. Wisely, the conservatives voted them out at the next primary.

    Tea Party, NRA throw 5 RINOS out of Tennessee Legislature

    Given this scenario, do we really think a RINO like Romney will actually govern as a conservative? This has been RINO practice since Johnson defeated Goldwater in 1964. Talk conservative to win the primary and the general election, govern as a progressive to amass power and wealth in office, talk conservative at the next election and fool the voters again to win re-election.

    Do you not see the same pattern in Romney? How can you trust a RINO to keep his campaign ideals after the election? Not even with Ryan as VP can we trust Romney not to play the typical RINO card. The VP has no real influence on the executive branch. That was why Teddy Roosevelt was nominated to the VP office—to remove him from power. In this case we will be stuck with another RINO.
     

    Blackhawk2001

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    Here is another demonstration of Republicans elected by conservative voters who refused to advance conservative principles. At least five RINOs promised conservative action and gained the support of conservative voters. These legislators then governed as progressives. Wisely, the conservatives voted them out at the next primary.

    Tea Party, NRA throw 5 RINOS out of Tennessee Legislature

    Given this scenario, do we really think a RINO like Romney will actually govern as a conservative? This has been RINO practice since Johnson defeated Goldwater in 1964. Talk conservative to win the primary and the general election, govern as a progressive to amass power and wealth in office, talk conservative at the next election and fool the voters again to win re-election.

    Do you not see the same pattern in Romney? How can you trust a RINO to keep his campaign ideals after the election? Not even with Ryan as VP can we trust Romney not to play the typical RINO card. The VP has no real influence on the executive branch. That was why Teddy Roosevelt was nominated to the VP office—to remove him from power. In this case we will be stuck with another RINO.

    Well, we already know what almost four years of Obama has cost us, and we can see how much support the Libertarians have garnered, even in the Republican Party, so you seem to be suggesting we choose between the Obama we know and distrust, the Johnson we don't know (and apparently neither does most anyone else), and Romney who is acting like a Conservative, MAY attempt to govern as a RINO, but may not. Tough choice for you (but not for me).
     

    Bapak2ja

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    Well, we already know what almost four years of Obama has cost us, and we can see how much support the Libertarians have garnered, even in the Republican Party, so you seem to be suggesting we choose between the Obama we know and distrust, the Johnson we don't know (and apparently neither does most anyone else), and Romney who is acting like a Conservative, MAY attempt to govern as a RINO, but may not. Tough choice for you (but not for me).

    Do you really think Romney will be any better?
     

    Trooper

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    Here is another demonstration of Republicans elected by conservative voters who refused to advance conservative principles. At least five RINOs promised conservative action and gained the support of conservative voters. These legislators then governed as progressives. Wisely, the conservatives voted them out at the next primary.

    Tea Party, NRA throw 5 RINOS out of Tennessee Legislature

    Given this scenario, do we really think a RINO like Romney will actually govern as a conservative? This has been RINO practice since Johnson defeated Goldwater in 1964. Talk conservative to win the primary and the general election, govern as a progressive to amass power and wealth in office, talk conservative at the next election and fool the voters again to win re-election.

    Do you not see the same pattern in Romney? How can you trust a RINO to keep his campaign ideals after the election? Not even with Ryan as VP can we trust Romney not to play the typical RINO card. The VP has no real influence on the executive branch. That was why Teddy Roosevelt was nominated to the VP office—to remove him from power. In this case we will be stuck with another RINO.

    Does it matter as long as Obama is out of office?

    Again, I did not want Romney. I supported Cain.

    But then I do not want a messiah. Which is all that Ron Paul is. you worship Ron Paul the way that democrats worship the great Lord Obama.
     
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