It's been that way as long as there have been teachers. Opinion always plays a part in education.
Bull****. The materials are provided by a third party but the school system made it part of the curriculum.C'mon mrjarrell, we wouldn't want things like facts to get in the way of the gratuitous teacher bashing. Don't you know the only reason they went into teaching is so they could indoctrinate our children?
I'm not defending the school system or the state. I'm defending teachers, most of whom do a darn fine job within the parameters of the system. The story in the OP is about an idiotic proposal written by an idiotic lawmaker, but of course as usual quickly becomes an opportunity to bash teachers as a whole.Bull****. The materials are provided by a third party but the school system made it part of the curriculum.and it's splitting hairs anyway. The school is indistinguishable from the state. mrjarrell is just obsfucsting the obvious.ill add that anyone who defends government education is either a hypocrite or in denial.
I don't have the governors ear but I will talk to my state rep about it when I see him again. As far as teaching based on opinion 2+2could equal five based on that logic. For what its worth I don't have a problem with my daughters school or its teachers. Quite frankly they are a breed apart from most of academia and I have a great deal of respect for them to include the ones that buy supplies for the class and gifts for their students out of their own pocket. I guess my problem is with the curriculum and her teacher if her opinion is that every time we turn on a light switch we are driving another nail into the coffin of mother earth.That particular program was not one by your daughters school. It was the state of Indiana that promoted that particular program. You should talk to your state rep and the governor about it. The teachers had nothing to do with it.
Even home schoolers load their kids up with their own opinions, and they don't include just math, reading, etc....As long as those opinions are about Math, Reading, etc.......
That's not that the boxes and initiative were about. They were about saving money and managing energy and resources to improve your home and the state. Didn't have anything to do with Earthday or the like, (considering they were backed by the major utility companies). Teaching kids to save a few bucks on their power bills is a lesson most of us should be able to get behind.I don't have the governors ear but I will talk to my state rep about it when I see him again. As far as teaching based on opinion 2+2could equal five based on that logic. For what its worth I don't have a problem with my daughters school or its teachers. Quite frankly they are a breed apart from most of academia and I have a great deal of respect for them to include the ones that buy supplies for the class and gifts for their students out of their own pocket. I guess my problem is with the curriculum and her teacher if her opinion is that every time we turn on a light switch we are driving another nail into the coffin of mother earth.
That's not that the boxes and initiative were about. They were about saving money and managing energy and resources to improve your home and the state. Didn't have anything to do with Earthday or the like, (considering they were backed by the major utility companies). Teaching kids to save a few bucks on their power bills is a lesson most of should be able to get behind.
The program was sponsered by Duke Energy. The box had save energy, save the planet. If that translates into save energy, save money then I guess I was all wrong about the lesson, but I got the message.That's not that the boxes and initiative were about. They were about saving money and managing energy and resources to improve your home and the state. Didn't have anything to do with Earthday or the like, (considering they were backed by the major utility companies). Teaching kids to save a few bucks on their power bills is a lesson most of us should be able to get behind.
The program was sponsered by Duke Energy. The box had save energy, save the planet. If that translates into save energy, save money then I guess I was all wrong about the lesson, but I got the message.
I didn't see the handouts being discussed here so if the following was covered, please disregard... I have no problem with the lesson if it was used as an economic/mathematical learning experience. My mom and dad were not concerned with global warming, carbon footprints, or ozone holes but they definitely understood the pocketbook effects my brother and I caused if we left the front door open when we went outside in winter or left our bedroom lights on when we left.
If they're really there to teach how to save money, where it counts, they could have the kids learn how to figure out how long it takes to do simple paybacks for changing out LED bulbs for incandescents or how much it costs if they leave a tv on when they go outside to play. But my cynical side would expect they did their typical green indoctrination, with tons of CO2 stats, generalized cost savings, how many trees would be saved, how many bunnies would be spared, etc.
Even home schoolers load their kids up with their own opinions, and they don't include just math, reading, etc....
Even home schoolers load their kids up with their own opinions, and they don't include just math, reading, etc....
He'll just tell you that your "truth" is the personal equivalent of propaganda, which is not completely false. What he doesn't understand (or more likely, refuses to acknowledge) is that it is the parents' prerogative to determine the education of their children, and that includes all non-academic material as well. I'm guessing he's got kids enrolled in the government schools based on his posting history. He's been a defender of Common Core, and noticeably silent on the issue of government schools going beyond their role. Unless he actually believes that it is in the role of government schools to teach kids a morality that may be in direct conflict with the parents. I suppose that's always a possibility.My fiancée and I have already decided that we will homeschool our children so that way the "opinions" they form will be based on the truth, not liberal propaganda.