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Pre Panic Pricing
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Finally! See, I said this before and was told I was bug nutty and that prices went right back down to what they were pre-panic back then when I posted that we all need to realize that prices aren't going back down to what they once were again, EVER AGAIN!
Prices don't go down folks. They may go down some once the madness ends but the new baseline will not be the same as the pre-panic baseline, it will be HIGER by a lot. Each time this kind of thing happen, we enter a new pricing paradigm and that's a fact of life, deal with it. So if you are thinking we will get back to $124/1000 for steel cased AK ammo again, gimme what your smokin' cause it must be good stuff.
That boat has sailed. You can still find it for this here and there now but things haven't settled yet either. Once the stores are back to having shelves of stock again, prices will show an increase and so will the online prices at places selling ammo by the case. This whole deal winds up a sort of win for the Anti's no matter what we wind up with legislation-wise. One goal they maintain always is to increase the price of shooting so that eventually only those with considerable disposable income can afford to fire the guns they own. People have been making fun of me for saying this for twenty years now. I never said it would happen overnight, I have always said this is simply a goal of theirs and has been happening all along.
Figure out what it cost in dollars adjusted for inflation to shoot 50 rounds of 9mm 20 years ago then look at what it costs to do so today. remember, adjust the money so you are comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges.
So, if I paid $12 for 50 rounds in 1993 (and I think it was actually more like 9 or ten), that same 50 rounds would cost 19.12 if you used today's money to pay for it. I think though we all know it is more like $50 to go and buy yourself 50 9mm's these days. Before the hub bub it was $25. This leaves us with a little less than $6 increase above and beyond what it once cost us which doesn't seem like much until you start looking at what ammo cost in general then verses what it costs now, meaning an average across calibers, then you would see things have gone up close to 35%.
Do the math yourself, I used old catalogs and websites that figure the difference in buying power of one year's dollar vs another's. No doubt this is less than scientific but it does give you an idea of what has been happening especially since I used the same sellers throughout my calculations so I would be able to track this without worrying about differences between companies.
Each and every panic may well be a wonderful display of the free market. It may well show how well capitalism works when it is allowed to go unrestrained. I am all for these things, I really am. I would love to see our markets opened up and made free, then folks who depend on farming for their livelihoods could just find something else to do since they sure as heck couldn't make a living farming anymore. The same goes for so many other industries like textiles and dairy and even logging that it would strike me that those who belittle others who try to bring things into perspective by telling us we are less than conservative or may even be socialist Obama supporters must surely be the best among us for holding true to all the American Dream stands for, right? That or maybe they are so short sighted they don't really understand much beyond balancing their checkbooks if that.
These panics always wind up hurting the shooting sports in the long run. Period. There is no upside to them, period. Those who help perpetuate them are the worst sort of person there is, get it? If you are trying to sell your brass at a dollar a piece, you are scum. Same goes for any other gouger trying to turn a fast buck. If you go to Gander Mountain and clean the place out so you can "flip" it online for three times what it cost you, you're a pig that will hopefully find themselves in need someday and no one will help them because we will all remember you and how you sold us all out to the Antis.
Why? Because each panic causes a directly relatable increase in overall prices to the length it lasts and the severity of the gouging that occurs during its run. If you are a person who enjoys the shooting sports and feels strongly about the Second Amendment and thinks it should be there for more than just the rich in the future, then stop fighting about whether or not this is allowable in your worldview and think about a bigger picture, THE Worldview.
Climbing down off my soapbox now. You may commence tossing your eggs, rotting veggies and brickbats now.
Finally! See, I said this before and was told I was bug nutty and that prices went right back down to what they were pre-panic back then when I posted that we all need to realize that prices aren't going back down to what they once were again, EVER AGAIN!
Prices don't go down folks. They may go down some once the madness ends but the new baseline will not be the same as the pre-panic baseline, it will be HIGER by a lot. Each time this kind of thing happen, we enter a new pricing paradigm and that's a fact of life, deal with it. So if you are thinking we will get back to $124/1000 for steel cased AK ammo again, gimme what your smokin' cause it must be good stuff.
That boat has sailed. You can still find it for this here and there now but things haven't settled yet either. Once the stores are back to having shelves of stock again, prices will show an increase and so will the online prices at places selling ammo by the case. This whole deal winds up a sort of win for the Anti's no matter what we wind up with legislation-wise. One goal they maintain always is to increase the price of shooting so that eventually only those with considerable disposable income can afford to fire the guns they own. People have been making fun of me for saying this for twenty years now. I never said it would happen overnight, I have always said this is simply a goal of theirs and has been happening all along.
Figure out what it cost in dollars adjusted for inflation to shoot 50 rounds of 9mm 20 years ago then look at what it costs to do so today. remember, adjust the money so you are comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges.
So, if I paid $12 for 50 rounds in 1993 (and I think it was actually more like 9 or ten), that same 50 rounds would cost 19.12 if you used today's money to pay for it. I think though we all know it is more like $50 to go and buy yourself 50 9mm's these days. Before the hub bub it was $25. This leaves us with a little less than $6 increase above and beyond what it once cost us which doesn't seem like much until you start looking at what ammo cost in general then verses what it costs now, meaning an average across calibers, then you would see things have gone up close to 35%.
Do the math yourself, I used old catalogs and websites that figure the difference in buying power of one year's dollar vs another's. No doubt this is less than scientific but it does give you an idea of what has been happening especially since I used the same sellers throughout my calculations so I would be able to track this without worrying about differences between companies.
Each and every panic may well be a wonderful display of the free market. It may well show how well capitalism works when it is allowed to go unrestrained. I am all for these things, I really am. I would love to see our markets opened up and made free, then folks who depend on farming for their livelihoods could just find something else to do since they sure as heck couldn't make a living farming anymore. The same goes for so many other industries like textiles and dairy and even logging that it would strike me that those who belittle others who try to bring things into perspective by telling us we are less than conservative or may even be socialist Obama supporters must surely be the best among us for holding true to all the American Dream stands for, right? That or maybe they are so short sighted they don't really understand much beyond balancing their checkbooks if that.
These panics always wind up hurting the shooting sports in the long run. Period. There is no upside to them, period. Those who help perpetuate them are the worst sort of person there is, get it? If you are trying to sell your brass at a dollar a piece, you are scum. Same goes for any other gouger trying to turn a fast buck. If you go to Gander Mountain and clean the place out so you can "flip" it online for three times what it cost you, you're a pig that will hopefully find themselves in need someday and no one will help them because we will all remember you and how you sold us all out to the Antis.
Why? Because each panic causes a directly relatable increase in overall prices to the length it lasts and the severity of the gouging that occurs during its run. If you are a person who enjoys the shooting sports and feels strongly about the Second Amendment and thinks it should be there for more than just the rich in the future, then stop fighting about whether or not this is allowable in your worldview and think about a bigger picture, THE Worldview.
Climbing down off my soapbox now. You may commence tossing your eggs, rotting veggies and brickbats now.
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Gluemanz28
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it is sad when you look at ammo boxes that you have had for several years and see what the prices were then compared to now.
I stocked up on 9mm for $180-190 per 1000.I bought it at Ammoman, Target Sports and Midwest Gun Exchange.
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