Saginaw SG
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ran the Agulia dirty Mexican brass ammo thru it would not cycle. Winchester, ppu, remington, armscor all cycle it
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Saginaw SG
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ran the Agulia dirty Mexican brass ammo thru it would not cycle. Winchester, ppu, remington, armscor all cycle it
I don't trust tulammo even for range use. Seen too many squib loads out of them.
Again, we are NOT talking about ARs or other modern weapons, so that video doesn't apply.
we are talking about Tula 30 carbine. Which runs dirty and won't cycle some carbines. Steel is harder to extract and the cartridge is marginal for gas operation in the first place.
Steel on steel still causes wear, NO the ammo steel isn't harder then the rifle steel, but softer items still cause wear on harder items.
Look at a set of steps in a very old building that are used a lot..... rubber causes wear on hard stone. (Chicago Union station steps for example)
Again, we are NOT talking about ARs or other modern weapons, so that video doesn't apply.
we are talking about Tula 30 carbine. Which runs dirty and won't cycle some carbines. Steel is harder to extract and the cartridge is marginal for gas operation in the first place.
Steel on steel still causes wear, NO the ammo steel isn't harder then the rifle steel, but softer items still cause wear on harder items.
Look at a set of steps in a very old building that are used a lot..... rubber causes wear on hard stone. (Chicago Union station steps for example)
I concur...modern guns I shoot Tula through all day long (Glock, AR and such) but in an old carbine I wouldn't.
Again, we are NOT talking about ARs or other modern weapons, so that video doesn't apply. And yet there have been many posts on this thread that are bringing up inaccurate information for both modern and older firearms. You must not have even opened the link I provided as that addresses all firearms.
we are talking about Tula 30 carbine. Which runs dirty and won't cycle some carbines. Steel is harder to extract and the cartridge is marginal for gas operation in the first place. No disagreement on how dirty the ammo is and that it can have less power than American brass rounds. I would not use it for self defense purposes. Should we not also present accurate facts so the OP can decide what he wants to do and what he is comfortable with?
Steel on steel still causes wear, NO the ammo steel isn't harder then the rifle steel, but softer items still cause wear on harder items.
Look at a set of steps in a very old building that are used a lot..... rubber causes wear on hard stone. (Chicago Union station steps for example)
So by your 2 statements above, we should not even use rubber cased ammo (which does not exist) because even rubber will cause wear on the metal parts of a gun (Chicago Union station steps for example). Then why would you not exclude brass cased ammo from your list? Brass is much harder than rubber.
JT1968;5441549[COLOR=#FF0000 said:]Didn't the US issue steel cased ammo in WW2? I've shot a lot of Tula in 9mm, 45acp, 40 S&w, and 380. The only issue I had was hard primers with the 380. I shoot the stuff a lot. Clean the gun afterwards. Which you should be doing regardless of you ammo choice.
It does still apply. You are right, the ammo does run dirty and won't cycle in some weapons, not just old ones. You are also right about something softer causing wear, any type of friction will cause wear. The thing is, is that your rifling in your barrel will be the first to go before you see any damage from that steel case. That wear is going to be there no matter what type of ammo you shoot. So, if the carbine will cycle Tula just fine, why not shoot twice as much for the same cost?
I'm not saying you have to, as it's your choice not to, but please, don't come in here with those old internet rumors that the steel cases will damage your firearm. That is not true at all. The steel cases DO NOT cause any more wear than brass cases.
Why not? Do we know the year the OP's M1 was produced? It could be a modern M1... hell it could be an Auto Ordnance which would be newer than a Gen 1 Glock. You do know that M1 Carbines are still being produced today, correct?
Hence why I said "old" carbine...read the line you quoted of mine more throughly before making accusations.