Omg. Trooper was right.

[DoggyDaddy]

You know, I could give a rats ass about the title "Millennials" or "Gen X" or whatever. Every generation has the share of lazy people. No exceptions.

Well, we baby boomers destroyed the planet. We all have our crosses to bear...

 

[ModernGunner]

Works both ways. Even listened to a college 'job search Rep' tell the attending group, "If a resume doesn't 'grab me' in the first sentence or two, I set it aside and don't bother responding to it". The Rep was a bit perturbed when I told them, "If you worked for ME, today would be your last day. If I hired you to find me good people and this is your approach, I don't need you".

This is apparently a very common problem with companies large enough to have an HR person / department. It would appear working through a stack of resumes to find the best candidate for the job in question is 'too much of a chore', even though that's a big part of an HR Dept's. responsibility. Apparently, it's how 'cool' the resume looks now, not how qualified the candidate is.

Not defending anyone being lackadaisical about their job search, but if you get that response (none) enough times, you might just figure 'that's the way it is' and utilize the same approach yourself.

It COULD be that applicants no longer care because companies no longer care? Hiring quality employees no longer seems to matter, in a great many instances. At least, to a LOT of HR Dept. personnel. Nowadays, figure you'd better send out 100 - 200 resumes to even get one real interview (where you talk to someone that actually DOES the hiring). Ironically, then the employers complain they "can't find quality employees". Blame the HR Dept. Or, perhaps more appropriately, blame the employer that doesn't monitor what the HR Dept. is doing.

But it goes deeper. MANY employers want a college degree PLUS several years experience, but want to pay 'entry-level' wages. Then the employers complain good employees don't stay, LOL.

Forget 'loyalty' nowadays, on either side. The employer wants the 'best' (see above) employee they can get at absolutely the cheapest salary, and call it 'capitalism'. The smart employee starts looking for the next, higher paying job the minute they're hired at the current employer. Loyalty must work in both directions, or it doesn't work at all.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

MG, I can see your point. I had to apply half a dozen (maybe more) times for my current job because a human being never even SAW my resume' until it passed the computerized scan. My "winning" resume' was such a mish-mash of "key words" that any human being reading it would have though I was a moron. Now with that being said, I was also taught both in high school and college that a resume' should be eye-catching - use fancy paper, include a well thought out cover letter, etc.. Of course this was before the anonymity of computer scans and email attachments too.

 

[Leo]

I had Dinner Saturday night with a person in the employment office of a very well paying non union manufacturer in Danville, IL. They employ about 400-500 people at any given time have no mandatory overtime. They have to replace 25% of the work force EVERY year due to attendance. That does not even include all the training they do to try to keep people in jobs that they care enough to do. The East European work ethic that built America is not alive and well in that part of the country.

 

[chef larry]

Works both ways. Even listened to a college 'job search Rep' tell the attending group, "If a resume doesn't 'grab me' in the first sentence or two, I set it aside and don't bother responding to it". The Rep was a bit perturbed when I told them, "If you worked for ME, today would be your last day. If I hired you to find me good people and this is your approach, I don't need you".

This is apparently a very common problem with companies large enough to have an HR person / department. It would appear working through a stack of resumes to find the best candidate for the job in question is 'too much of a chore', even though that's a big part of an HR Dept's. responsibility. Apparently, it's how 'cool' the resume looks now, not how qualified the candidate is.

Not defending anyone being lackadaisical about their job search, but if you get that response (none) enough times, you might just figure 'that's the way it is' and utilize the same approach yourself.

It COULD be that applicants no longer care because companies no longer care? Hiring quality employees no longer seems to matter, in a great many instances. At least, to a LOT of HR Dept. personnel. Nowadays, figure you'd better send out 100 - 200 resumes to even get one real interview (where you talk to someone that actually DOES the hiring). Ironically, then the employers complain they "can't find quality employees". Blame the HR Dept. Or, perhaps more appropriately, blame the employer that doesn't monitor what the HR Dept. is doing.

But it goes deeper. MANY employers want a college degree PLUS several years experience, but want to pay 'entry-level' wages. Then the employers complain good employees don't stay, LOL.

Forget 'loyalty' nowadays, on either side. The employer wants the 'best' (see above) employee they can get at absolutely the cheapest salary, and call it 'capitalism'. The smart employee starts looking for the next, higher paying job the minute they're hired at the current employer. Loyalty must work in both directions, or it doesn't work at all.

This is the problem I'm going thru at this time. I like how you hit the nail on the head. I will not quit the job hunt.

 

[nakinate]

This millennial bashing has to stop. My generation isn't what gave us this crappy government that is going broke. Who gave us social security? Who gave us Medicare and Medicaid? Welfare? Surely not me or mine. You old folks need to quit your whining and do something if you want to see things change.

 

[hornadylnl]

This millennial bashing has to stop. My generation isn't what gave us this crappy government that is going broke. Who gave us social security? Who gave us Medicare and Medicaid? Welfare? Surely not me or mine. You old folks need to quit your whining and do something if you want to see things change.

Nope, it's easier to blame the youth than to take responsibility for the problems they created. Most of those complaining forget their parents thinking that Elvis, The Beatles and the like were going to be the ruination of the country.

 

[nakinate]

Nope, it's easier to blame the youth than to take responsibility for the problems they created. Most of those complaining forget their parents thinking that Elvis, The Beatles and the like were going to be the ruination of the country.

That's the problem with this country. Everyone is too comfortable to fight for change.

 

[Max Volume]

This millennial bashing has to stop. My generation isn't what gave us this crappy government that is going broke. Who gave us social security? Who gave us Medicare and Medicaid? Welfare? Surely not me or mine. You old folks need to quit your whining and do something if you want to see things change.

If you don't like crappy government then change it. A simple google search shows that young voters have made up a majority of the electorate in 2012. EDIT... I don't think the results were for the better.

 

[nakinate]

If you don't like crappy government then change it. A simple google search shows that young voters have made up a majority of the electorate in 2012.

I agree. I believe the only way to truly fix it is to allow it to bankrupt itself. You can't just vote to eliminate all of those entitlement programs. Getting rid of them has to be the only option because there is no money left. That's the only way they will end.

 

[Leo]

I am 56 years old, I got out of High school when this country had already thrown GOD out of the public arenas. There was already a deficet budget, an unfunded SS program where money was being robbed to fund socialist programs, and cities full of criminals whose votes were purchased to support socialistic leaders. At that time the unemployment was so bad in the city of Chicago, the boss's kid couldn't find a full time job. The UN was already in place, and soldiers were getting screwed over by politicians. As a boy my grandfather openly cursed my parents generation for taking all they wanted like hogs at a trough and not putting anything back for the future generations. The systems and leadership that stole my life savings and my pension are in a position that they cannot be touched through a voting both. Most of those who are really responsible for this mess are dead. Most of those were the self named "Great Generation". The few left will pull the democrat handle if satan himself was on the ballot. The disciples of the great socialists are teaching in public universities, and their worker bees are in public education. As I pick up and hug my grandchildren, I feel a mix of emotions, mostly sadness for the horror that is coming.

The best and the brightest of this generation will pay the price of generations past that were not bright enough to read and understand Plato's Republic, and Political science 101. The mighty are slain not by a powerful army, but by an errant Philosophy

 

[churchmouse]

This millennial bashing has to stop. My generation isn't what gave us this crappy government that is going broke. Who gave us social security? Who gave us Medicare and Medicaid? Welfare? Surely not me or mine. You old folks need to quit your whining and do something if you want to see things change.

HHHhhhmmmmmmmmm.....

Old people.......

The issues we are having with "Some" of the young people are directly traceable to the issues we are having as a society.

 

[tetsujin79]

No one who has kids wants their kids to have it worse then they did. So figure out when that became the measuring stick for good parenting and you'll have an answer to when the tide changed?

Also,

the only way to truly fix it is to allow it to bankrupt itself

Too many people with too much skin in the game? Insert "to big to fail" joke here...

Who said any of this wasn't a feature, not a bug?


My father in law escaped from the commies in Hungary. Not a visit goes by where we don't have that moment where he shakes his head at the irony about what is going on in America now, then tells me it's good I have guns...

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Then there are some of us that belong to "Generation Y" that destroy all the stereotypes. What would you call*

LEADERS?

I agree with MG also. You get the kind of employee you deserve. And if I thought I could have a better job than I currently do without the costs being too high (relocation, etc) I darn sure wouldn't be sitting still.

 

[Ruger-9mm]

I've been in the position to hire and fire people before, and I can safely say that the poor work ethic knows know bounds. I've had 70 year old folks that could work circles around a 16 year old 7 days a week. But then I've also had 18 year olds that right out of the gate show the initiative to move up. It does take all kinds. I fall into that generation, and there are some thins looking back I wish I had done different, but not to get out of responsibilities. Every responsibility I have now I gladly took on, and I will do what is required to take care of them.