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    Yes, I know it's legal, just against university policy. However, as a future college student (I'm graduating from high school in May), I think it's also important that it's not against my policy.

    I'm not yet convinced that I will carry on campus (IU Bloomington, if you were wondering). If I do, it'll probably be a pocket-size 9mm.

    My question is, is it possible to go four years living a "normal" college life, in dorms with possible roommates, going to class, working in labs, being social, etc. while armed, with the special condition that I don't get expelled in the process? Has anybody here done it, and if so, what tips would you recommend? I'm thinking a small lock box for my dorm would definitely be a beneficial asset, for when I'm asleep/need to leave my firearm for some reason.

    Counsel me, elders.
     

    Que

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    Don't do it! You are posting the question on a public forum, which leads me to think you lack discretion and will certainly tell someone about carrying.
     

    92ThoStro

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    I am a college student, but I don't live in a dorm. If you plan on living in a dorm, with roommates, then don't do it. All it takes is for you to **** that person off one time, and they report that you have a gun, or someone in the hallway opens your door and sees you putting it in the box. As far as going to class, working in labs, and all of that, you wont have a problem. The problem arises when you take the gun off of your person. Live in an off campus apartment, or live at home and commute or something.
     

    Nodnarb

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    Sounds like a good way to get expelled and or worse. No matter how secretive you think you're being someone will know. That someone will talk to others and soon everyone will know.
     

    jgreiner

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    Sounds like a good way to get expelled and or worse. No matter how secretive you think you're being someone will know. That someone will talk to others and soon everyone will know.

    Man, I miss the days of college back when we used to keep our SHOTGUNS in our dorm room closets so we could go PHEASANT hunting after classes.
     

    youngda9

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    ^^ You guys are really showing your age...unfortunately.

    Get a single room and there shouldn't be a problem. With a roommate you will be undoubtedly dressing and undressing while the other person is in the room. It would be hard to hide your firearm from view during these times.
     

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    And my shotgun was in my trunk while in High School because I used to rabbit hunt with my science and physics teacher after school.
    My .22 rifle was routinely carried through the halls and kept in my HS locker on days that I walked to the nearby local National Guard Armory after school for practice with our HS rifle team. Every pickup truck in the school parking lot had hunting rifles and/or shotguns in the window rack. This was just normal in central PA in the 70s.

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    MooreALX

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    I am a college student. First thing: if you carry on campus, don't tell anyone, even us folk here on the interwebs. You really don't want the word to get out.

    Also, I don't see any way you could pull it off in a dorm, or really any university owned housing, for that matter. Off campus housing with like minded roommates would be the way to go.

    You're really gambling with chances here: On one hand if you don't carry, you run the risk of loosing your life to a criminal. If you do carry, you run the risk of loosing every dime you payed for that semester, and possibly every dime to that point (if you can't find a school to accept your existing credits), if the university catches wind of you carrying. You just have to weigh the consequences and probability of each. I will say that at my particular university, and the area surrounding, that the violent crime rate is so low that it makes absolutely no sense for me to carry on campus and risk expulsion. I can't say that would be the case for me at all universities, just the particular one that I am currently attending.

    Last thing, I would recommend that you read your schools policy, and know exactly where they state you cannot carry. Any other place is safe. However, there may be certain situations where their policy is silent on the area in regards to firearms (you're still safe), but you want to stay in deep concealment, because while you should get off once, the policy would be certain to be changed if they catch someone there. Sorry about being a little cryptic here, I hope this makes sense.
     

    Hornett

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    My question is, is it possible to go four years living a "normal" college life, in dorms with possible roommates, going to class, working in labs, being social, etc. while armed, with the special condition that I don't get expelled in the process? Has anybody here done it, and if so, what tips would you recommend? I'm thinking a small lock box for my dorm would definitely be a beneficial asset, for when I'm asleep/need to leave my firearm for some reason.
    I am too old to help much since I went to college in the 70's when we did have shotguns (and my personal Ruger Security Six) in our room.
    My advice.
    LIVE OFF CAMPUS.
    Then you could possibly pull this off.
     

    45calibre

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    Yes, I know it's legal, just against university policy. However, as a future college student (I'm graduating from high school in May), I think it's also important that it's not against my policy.

    I'm not yet convinced that I will carry on campus (IU Bloomington, if you were wondering). If I do, it'll probably be a pocket-size 9mm.

    My question is, is it possible to go four years living a "normal" college life, in dorms with possible roommates, going to class, working in labs, being social, etc. while armed, with the special condition that I don't get expelled in the process? Has anybody here done it, and if so, what tips would you recommend? I'm thinking a small lock box for my dorm would definitely be a beneficial asset, for when I'm asleep/need to leave my firearm for some reason.

    Counsel me, elders.

    Im in college and i carry every single day, i dont live in a dorm however. Are you going to be staying in one by choice ? Dont say a damn thing to anyone at all whatsoever, the only time people should is if you pull it out because you need it.
     

    KW730

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    Speaking from experience, a dorm will be hard to hide and somewhat risky. It is possible though. Whatever you do, do not have a girl over to your campus apartment with your Glock sitting on the nightstand. She will get pissed at you some point in time and tell campus PD.

    As for IUPD, they have stated that they don't usually make a fuss to the administration if the firearm is legal. Concealed means concealed.
     

    ModernS30

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    In my opinion, and yes its just an opinion. As a college student, who just applied for my LTCH. I would not carry on campus. It is against school policy, and the law states that it is up to the university to determine. I feel as though the risk of death by a deranged individual or criminal is less than that of getting caught.

    No matter how well you conceal, if you carry every day, you are bound to print sometimes, and if an individual sees that, and does not like it, you're going to be in some deep trouble. Probably farther than just expulsion. I would almost bet that the school will without a doubt at least attempt to press some sort of legal charges.

    Furthermore, as a student who supports the group Students for Concealed Carry. I feel as though individuals not following policy are putting the forward progress of any organization pushing for legislation to allow campus carry in jeopardy.

    Again, this is just my opinion. Indiana University (All sections of their campus, whether Bloomington or an extension of there) does not allow any weapons on campus. This does not mean I have not seen some around. I know of one individual who actually dropped his handgun out of his pocket in the hallway and swiftly picked it up and avoided trouble. I just find it to be an unwise choice.
     

    JettaKnight

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    My question is, is it possible to go four years living a "normal" college life, in dorms with possible roommates, going to class, working in labs, being social, etc. while armed, with the special condition that I don't get expelled in the process?

    Highly doubtful, especially in the dorms or with roommates.

    Honestly, the chances of being caught with it far outweigh the chances of being caught without it.
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    JettaKnight

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    I am a college student. First thing: if you carry on campus, don't tell anyone, even us folk here on the interwebs. You really don't want the word to get out.

    What? Like this:

    Im in college and i carry every single day, i dont live in a dorm however. Are you going to be staying in one by choice ? Dont say a damn thing to anyone at all whatsoever, the only time people should is if you pull it out because you need it.

    Also, I don't see any way you could pull it off in a dorm, or really any university owned housing, for that matter. Off campus housing with like minded roommates would be the way to go.

    In a dorm too many people have access to your room: maintenance, RA's, roommates, friends, etc.

    You'll definitely want a lock box.


    You're really gambling with chances here: On one hand if you don't carry, you run the risk of loosing your life to a criminal. If you do carry, you run the risk of loosing every dime you payed for that semester, and possibly every dime to that point (if you can't find a school to accept your existing credits), if the university catches wind of you carrying. You just have to weigh the consequences and probability of each. I will say that at my particular university, and the area surrounding, that the violent crime rate is so low that it makes absolutely no sense for me to carry on campus and risk expulsion. I can't say that would be the case for me at all universities, just the particular one that I am currently attending.
    Good post. Part of growing up in college is being able to critically think about these choices. Too often I read post here that I infer that the poster thinks he will instantly die if he doesn't have his handgun.
     

    45calibre

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    In my opinion, and yes its just an opinion. As a college student, who just applied for my LTCH. I would not carry on campus. It is against school policy, and the law states that it is up to the university to determine. I feel as though the risk of death by a deranged individual or criminal is less than that of getting caught.

    No matter how well you conceal, if you carry every day, you are bound to print sometimes, and if an individual sees that, and does not like it, you're going to be in some deep trouble. Probably farther than just expulsion. I would almost bet that the school will without a doubt at least attempt to press some sort of legal charges.

    Furthermore, as a student who supports the group Students for Concealed Carry. I feel as though individuals not following policy are putting the forward progress of any organization pushing for legislation to allow campus carry in jeopardy.

    Again, this is just my opinion. Indiana University (All sections of their campus, whether Bloomington or an extension of there) does not allow any weapons on campus. This does not mean I have not seen some around. I know of one individual who actually dropped his handgun out of his pocket in the hallway and swiftly picked it up and avoided trouble. I just find it to be an unwise choice.

    Both chances are slim. Even if you do print a little so what? Are people going to automatically assume you have a gun? Even if they do just because you go to college does not mean you give up your right to refuse a search by campus pd. You still have your rights on campus. That guy that dropped his gun is an idiot and Students for Concealed Carry groups are a joke. They want to play nice as if the university will also play nice with them. If you are caught with a gun on campus chances are the police will be called and escort you out in a show of force.

    Why would you want to be unarmed in one of the places most common for mass shootings? If you really need it and you dont have it you might probably get killed but at you kept your credits, right?
     

    KW730

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    No matter how well you conceal, if you carry every day, you are bound to print sometimes, and if an individual sees that, and does not like it, you're going to be in some deep trouble. Probably farther than just expulsion. I would almost bet that the school will without a doubt at least attempt to press some sort of legal charges.
    I got a warning on a campus that is notoriously anti-gun. What sort of legal charges do you think they would attempt to press? There is absolutely nothing illegal about a citizen with a LTCH carrying a legal firearm.
     
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