Twangbanger
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- Oct 9, 2010
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Just getting a little to "Kumbaya" here for me, Gravitas. My comments _were_ a bit harsh towards you.
But I don't really care how much money George Soros or the Koch Brothers have, or how they spend it (Note: the Koch Brothers are big Libertarian supporters). I sure don't like how Bloomberg is spending his money, but I don't want the system rigged against it, either. I think if a popular vote election on gun ownership were held the week after a school shooting, with 100% turnout, we'd lose it in a New York minute. That's why I want groups like the NRA to have muscle, and clout, and the ability to pigeonhole politicians behind the door, and make deals with them, and strong-arm them, and all of it. And why I support them, and why I hope you do, too.
That's not totalitarianism - that's just called "Playing the Game in America." "Shut up and play the game," is my belief...don't like what the people with money are doing? Get your own money together, and that of like-minded individuals, and oppose them. (Or - gasp! - vote out the politicians who are playing ball with them). But Having an entitlement mentality that wants the game to be rigged so "your" pet interests won't lose? That just smacks of laziness. Nobody is oppressing the people. They're just too lazy or dumb to do anything about things they don't like. Most would rather just commiserate, like we're all seemingly doing here.
I don't believe democracy is broken; people just need to use it. The Right has a mechanism for doing that (eg, the Tea Party, Eric Cantor, etc.) The Left apparently does not.
But I don't really care how much money George Soros or the Koch Brothers have, or how they spend it (Note: the Koch Brothers are big Libertarian supporters). I sure don't like how Bloomberg is spending his money, but I don't want the system rigged against it, either. I think if a popular vote election on gun ownership were held the week after a school shooting, with 100% turnout, we'd lose it in a New York minute. That's why I want groups like the NRA to have muscle, and clout, and the ability to pigeonhole politicians behind the door, and make deals with them, and strong-arm them, and all of it. And why I support them, and why I hope you do, too.
That's not totalitarianism - that's just called "Playing the Game in America." "Shut up and play the game," is my belief...don't like what the people with money are doing? Get your own money together, and that of like-minded individuals, and oppose them. (Or - gasp! - vote out the politicians who are playing ball with them). But Having an entitlement mentality that wants the game to be rigged so "your" pet interests won't lose? That just smacks of laziness. Nobody is oppressing the people. They're just too lazy or dumb to do anything about things they don't like. Most would rather just commiserate, like we're all seemingly doing here.
I don't believe democracy is broken; people just need to use it. The Right has a mechanism for doing that (eg, the Tea Party, Eric Cantor, etc.) The Left apparently does not.