New Years party at my favorite liberal's..

[Turf Doctor]

So, how did the evening go? Did the loud mouth get mouthy?

 

[jesse485]

Obviously, I'm way too late to be of any assistance, but I was just thinking about this yesterday. What I came up with is that all of these school/ mass shooters, and really any prepared criminal has the element of surprise on their side. Nobody will have any idea what's about to occur, and many of these shooters have packed extra magazines.

I on the other hand, have no clue when I will have to use my firearm, possibly against a crazy person who has done a good job of preparing extra munitions. Since I won't have the element of surprise, I will not have taken along a bunch of magazines, maybe one extra at the most. I would like all the advantage I can have against a prepared maniac.

 

[FMJ]

Obviously, I'm way too late to be of any assistance, but I was just thinking about this yesterday. What I came up with is that all of these school/ mass shooters, and really any prepared criminal has the element of surprise on their side. Nobody will have any idea what's about to occur, and many of these shooters have packed extra magazines.

I on the other hand, have no clue when I will have to use my firearm, possibly against a crazy person who has done a good job of preparing extra munitions. Since I won't have the element of surprise, I will not have taken along a bunch of magazines, maybe one extra at the most. I would like

This is one argument i have used to good effect when needed...or something of the sort.

"The bad guy chooses EVERYTHING. He chooses the when, the where, the how hes going to attack. The ONLY choice you have his HOW you will defend your family, your property and your LIFE. It is reasonable to be as prepared as possible for the unknown comes to visit.""

 

[SPUTTER]

That is correct are you ready when something happens. I carry everyday, I am not looking for any trouble but by God if something does I will be ready to protect my life, family and others if need be.

Going down to my wifes grandmothers to fire a few rounds.

 

[williamrights]

The best argument I heard is just turning the tables. I was once asked why I should have the right to carry at a place that shall remain nameless. Instead of taking the bait I simply stated it is not up to me to prove need it is up to you prove I do not have the right. They were dumb founded.

 

[Cemetery-man]

They don't ban Corvette's because people speed in them, and you can still drive one even after you get a ticket

That's usually the first example I throw back at them. "Why does someone need a car that will do 150 mph when the average speed limit is only 55?"

 

[Spike_351]

Answer a question with a question. Such as "ok they ban high cap mags, but stops me from carrying a large number of low cap mags to make up the difference? With a little practice I can swap them just as fast".

 

[JR50]

You need to speak language she understands.
You need to ask her to give up
something she cares about.

Ask her how she feels about "reasonable
abortion laws".

I.E. Is she willing to give just a bit on her "rights to
her own body" because we have a national tragedy of one kind or another? Or is
her "right to her body" an absolute that there is no negotiation on?

Ask
her if she, as a liberal, trusts pro-lifer's promises for just one, or maybe two
more laws and that is just gonna be it? Or, maybe she has no trust in her for
that?

So, theoretically, if it was provable that just one, or two laws
encroaching on her "right to her body" was somehow for the public good - would
she give up that right?

If that good was provable to be false, but
instead was just an emotional salve, would she still give up that right?


If that good was just something she saw as a step towards a great goal no
abortions, would she give in? Even if it was just something small, something
she did not need?

Keep it that direction. Don't get too tied into what
details could construe these examples - just ask the questions and get her
answers as theoreticals.

If she is not willing to give any space, then
tell her she understands how you feel. I.E. that absolute rights do not bow to
the madness of crowds or the whims of political times.

If she is willing
to give ground, then ask where the ground stops, where on the slope does she
thing she can stop the boulder once it gets rolling.

And then finally
ask her just how long she thinks it takes to swap a mag, and how much it matters
when you have a pistol to backup the reload time.

Techres,
Your argument may be the most astute and effective response I've ever heard.
Bravo! and Thank you.

 

[concrete dog]

She is loud and loves to argue, And is completely anti gun. And yes I will be packing.
1 argument I don't have a lot of answers for, Is the need for Hi capacity magazines.

Can you quickly give me several arguments I can use against her?

Just don't give her the satisfaction of an argument

 

[huey]

Need update I hope he's not in jail
Did she ASK you leave sounded like it was at HER House???

 

[Concerned Citizen]

Yes it was at her house. Unfortunately, she did not want to debate the issues, so it was a bit of a letdown. I suspect that it was because she had several relatives in from out of state, and did not want to pwned.

However, her & her husband are good friends, & we get together fairly often. I do appreciate all the advice and tips. I'm sure it will come in handy eventually.

 

[techres]

You got robbed of a loud and divisive debate,
But you got the opportunity for a real future conversation that might change someone.

Trust me, you came out wayyyy ahead in that deal.