Never Trumper? - why you should re-consider

[Ziggidy]

People can continue to grump against Trump all they want. They can verbalize their denial he is the best for this time.

Go to the booth and vote for Trump.....no one will know and you will silently celebrate that you helped save our country by voting against biden.

A no vote is a vote for biden, a vote against America.
A vote for biden is a vote against America.

A vote for Trump is to preseve whatever freedoms we have today.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

From my personal experience, complete and utter lack of information and complacency.
Biden voters have no idea what's going on.
They either didn't hear anything bad about Biden at all, or are parroting MSM propaganda verbatim.

One neighbor (old black man) said in passing "What did Trump do for ME personally? Nothing!" Then I saw a Biden sign.
Another (middle-aged white woman) believes everything the MSM ever said about Trump, does not believe Mueller's report, and is concerned that she moved into a "historic black neighborhood" because she's white. Need I say more?
Third one (old black woman) doesn't know anything at all except some bits of the juiciest MSM propaganda (e.g. the p-u-s-s-y thing). Has a Biden sign on her lawn.
Fourth one (very old black woman) simply called Trump "the devil" without any hope for any explanation.

All of those folks are very nice people, genuine, and lovely to talk to.

Another problem, in my opinion, is that living in a red state made people way too comfortable.
1) Everything works (for the most part, relatively speaking).
2) Hardly any riots (same disclaimer).
3) Efficient police, efficient cleanup.
4) Low taxes.
5) ...
They don't get it how good they have it. Acquaintances working at Lilly are all "blue no matter who."

As Bezmenov said

McCarthy and a couple other senate/congress persons warned us back in the 50s and 60s that the communist party had infiltrated or houses.
Even worse Karl marx , outlined EXACTLY how to destroy USA and Khrushchevs famous word "we will take USA without ever firing a shot"
Look at the planks of imposing communism.. they have followed the agenda to a tee... AND ITS WORKING.


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[TangoFoxtrot]

Its pretty easy to tell.. just figure out who's a globalist and who isnt.. there are some exceptions there but typically Americans that stand for globalism are anti 2A

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[NKBJ]

TF,
Spot on.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

TF,
Spot on.

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[PaulF]

The people you call "nevertrumpers" aren't going to be swayed by that video.

First, most are never going to see it, their social media algorithm pushes much different content to them. On the chance any of them actually watch the video, none will actually care. The narrative on the left makes this whole thing look like just another bat-**** Republican conspiracy-theory fantasy, as easily dismissed as pizzagate and qAnon.

Some people are not willing to ignore Trump's negatives...and they are plethora. Pointing out Biden's negatives isn't going to change those minds. This "scandal" reads as just another sideshow in an ongoing political circus to your ''nevertrumpers".

If you really want to change the minds of those who still might be open, highlighting Trumps upsides are the only way you will make ground. I haven't met a single person who claims to be voting Democrat to support Biden or Harris. Literally every one of my "nevertrumper" friends - myself included - will be voting against another four years of Trump.

To trumpers anything less than full-on Trump idolatry is nevertrumpism...the whole trump "movement" is too close to a religious fervor for my comfort.

I watched the whole video (thank goodness for vpns, I don't need that crap poisoning my feed). Doesn't change a damned thing for me.

 

[NKBJ]

Getting through to the public at large is not impossible.
And there is still time.
Go do some good.
Get the truth out.

 

[churchmouse]

I am just amazed at the insanity. Just amazed.

Which one of you people (myself included) has lived squeaky clean and could even begin to pass successfully under the MSM microscope DJT has been subjected too.

Which of us.....come on man there has to be at least 2 of us in this thread. Someone with totally un-impeachable moral character that has never said anything derogatory about a female when in a man cave where those statements should be safe. Come on you 2 (oops) lets hear your story's.

None of us. Not a one. None of us pass this litmus and I for damned sure would not so just drop the infantile crap and look at the job he has done.

GTFU OK. I am constantly amazed at some of the total crap I read in these threads. Yes we can all have and express an opinion but the reasoning behind them is amazing.

I believe I should step away for a while and let the inmates take this over just like you nuts would let happen to my wonderful country. Just because for some reason you find this man irritating. Hell I cant spend time watching him. But I will damned sure see that my country stays at least intact for the remainder of my limited time left on this insane rock. To vote any other way is just insane.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

The people you call "nevertrumpers" aren't going to be swayed by that video.

First, most are never going to see it, their social media algorithm pushes much different content to them. On the chance any of them actually watch the video, none will actually care. The narrative on the left makes this whole thing look like just another bat-**** Republican conspiracy-theory fantasy, as easily dismissed as pizzagate and qAnon.

Some people are not willing to ignore Trump's negatives...and they are plethora. Pointing out Biden's negatives isn't going to change those minds. This "scandal" reads as just another sideshow in an ongoing political circus to your ''nevertrumpers".

If you really want to change the minds of those who still might be open, highlighting Trumps upsides are the only way you will make ground. I haven't met a single person who claims to be voting Democrat to support Biden or Harris. Literally every one of my "nevertrumper" friends - myself included - will be voting against another four years of Trump.

To trumpers anything less than full-on Trump idolatry is nevertrumpism...the whole trump "movement" is too close to a religious fervor for my comfort.

I watched the whole video (thank goodness for vpns, I don't need that crap poisoning my feed). Doesn't change a damned thing for me.

Just a question.. do you think its best if America predominantly controls America's future or do you think its better if the UN/EU or CFR or some other group of elites halfway across the globe determine our place on the world stage?

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[TangoFoxtrot]

I am just amazed at the insanity. Just amazed.

Which one of you people (myself included) has lived squeaky clean and could even begin to pass successfully under the MSM microscope DJT has been subjected too.

Which of us.....come on man there has to be at least 2 of us in this thread. Someone with totally un-impeachable moral character that has never said anything derogatory about a female when in a man cave where those statements should be safe. Come on you 2 (oops) lets hear your story's.

None of us. Not a one. None of us pass this litmus and I for damned sure would not so just drop the infantile crap and look at the job he has done.

GTFU OK. I am constantly amazed at some of the total crap I read in these threads. Yes we can all have and express an opinion but the reasoning behind them is amazing.

I believe I should step away for a while and let the inmates take this over just like you nuts would let happen to my wonderful country. Just because for some reason you find this man irritating. Hell I cant spend time watching him. But I will damned sure see that my country stays at least intact for the remainder of my limited time left on this insane rock. To vote any other way is just insane.

Well said.. we must be cut from a.similar cloth.

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[SwikLS]

For me its so obvious that the elites are legitimately trying to destroy our republic and bring about one party rule. I will stand with anyone that wants to lead the opposition against them and it dont matter what they say on twitter or anywhere else. its their actions that speak much louder.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Im still a firm beliver that America was founded on Freedom and Self Reliance...

What some wish for will eventually **** off the average white male citizen here in this great land, and when that happens it will be dealt with violently and swiftly..

 

[PaulF]

Just a question.. do you think its best if America predominantly controls America's future or do you think its better if the UN/EU or CFR or some other group of elites halfway across the globe determine our place on the world stage?

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I view a vote for Trump as a vote for globalist oligarchy.

I view a vote for Biden as a vote for globalist socialism.

It's all globalist statism. There is no other choice. Individual liberty isn't an option.

Give me a better choice, and I'll jump at it.

 

[NKBJ]

It's so obvious that the same play book and the same people that have been used to take down Mid East countries have been used here to destabilize the US. Obama, Biden, Clinton, Harris all need to be arrested right now for the good of the whole world.

This doesn't affect only the fifty states.

 

[churchmouse]

I view a vote for Trump as a vote for globalist oligarchy.

I view a vote for Biden as a vote for globalist socialism.

It's all globalist statism. There is no other choice. Individual liberty isn't an option.

Give me a better choice, and I'll jump at it.

Just stay home OK.

 

[Ingomike]

For me its so obvious that the elites are legitimately trying to destroy our republic and bring about one party rule. I will stand with anyone that wants to lead the opposition against them and it dont matter what they say on twitter or anywhere else. its their actions that speak much louder.

There are 3,countries battling for world dominance, the US, the Chinese, and the global corporate state. The global corporate state includes, mega social media, tech and communications companies, the parent company's that own MSM, Amazon and mega retailers that sell imported junk, the list can go on.

The principals believe their money and wealth will insulate them from the pain you and I will have to live under when individual liberty is usurped. This situation is FAR bigger than just some run of the mill presidential election. There are very powerful forces in our world that want to extinguish the only true beacon of freedom in the entire world. In no place in the world can you freely espouse as we do here in the US and on INGO. If you do not understand the threat our freedoms are to those seeking power please research it.

Has Trump done anything to advance this situation? I've seen nothing. And with how this election has gone I would expect him to attempt to rein this in, not extend it.

Biden clearly is for this globalization...

 

[PaulF]

Just stay home OK.

I cast my ballot last Monday, It was a beautiful day to stand in line outside.

I voted against Trump.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

I don’t think you people understand what a never trumper is. At all costs, trump must go. Even if that meant being literally led by literal hitler. These people honestly believe real hitler would be an improvement. They cannot be reasoned with. They do not understand and are completely manic in their rabid belief.

I wish a psychiatrist would give an analysis/explanation of this mindset. I just don't get it.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

I view a vote for Trump as a vote for globalist oligarchy.

I view a vote for Biden as a vote for globalist socialism.

It's all globalist statism. There is no other choice. Individual liberty isn't an option.

Give me a better choice, and I'll jump at it.

Trump is a nationalist. Obama and soros both said "trump is going to single handedly destroy the new world order"
Now I dont doubt that Trump says some off the wall stuff and some minimal global ideas but I have to say the majority of what ive seen him to are the actions of a nationalist.
Before you say" nationalism equals racism" to have to think about the unique melting pot that America is so nationalism here is not a racial idea.
Have you watched any of the latest ads from biden where he essentially is running on the nationalist ideas that Trump ran on in 2016 , such as vowing to not do business with China and bring those jobs here (we know thats a big campaign lie)

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[printcraft]

I view a vote for Trump as a vote for globalist oligarchy.

I view a vote for Biden as a vote for globalist socialism.

It's all globalist statism. There is no other choice. Individual liberty isn't an option.

Give me a better choice, and I'll jump at it.

I cast my ballot last Monday, It was a beautiful day to stand in line outside.

I voted against Trump.

Turn your guns in now for a pink hat.