N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
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| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
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| / Lord Airlie
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| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
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Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
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Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
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Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
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Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
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Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
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| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
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James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
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J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
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William Rockefeller
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George F. Baker
^^^^^what he said^^^^^ kind of
Approx 70% is held by the FED itself, which is not owned by the American Public.
Who Owns The Federal Reserve?
Who owns the Fed?
Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm,
The banks that own the FED are the same banks that scream for "bail outs"
They print money when they want, with no oversight.
The Federal Reserve System needs to END!
Just read an article about China’s economy. Seems some feel it is also on the verge of collapse. The question is what will they do about our debt, and what would happen if they demanded immediately payment of the debt they hold.
This is a weak area for me. Do we hold any of their debt? And if push came to shove, do we get to subtract their (any country, not necessarily China) debt to us from our debt to them? How does that work?
I dont know if we, as a Nation, hold any Chinese Debt, but I'm pretty sure that we send the a large amount more in "Aid" than they hold in US Treasury Bonds
Excellent points made so far. I am seeking a list of entities to which we owe our national debt, the total amount of which would be the reported $15 Trillion we allegedly owe. Any ideas where that could be found and shown here?
The officially reported debt does not include future liabilities or unfunded mandates. As for payouts for medicare, SS, etc., they include only the near term, as I recall. The actual debt is well over $110 trillion now, when you factor the unfunded mandates, SS obligations, medicare/aid, etc. We and our children and grandchildren are screwed.I'm not sure you'll ever find anything concrete on that. As I'm not sure if that figure includes the interest fees or not, i suspect that it does not.
Additionally, I believe that the "Debt" as reported is made up of future liabilities that the .gov has promised to people, projections on payouts in SS, Medicaid/Medicare, etc.
It's an tangled mess that is intentionally made this way so it is nearly impossible for anyone to actually pin down an exact number and who is responsible for it.
The officially reported debt does not include future liabilities or unfunded mandates. As for payouts for medicare, SS, etc., they include only the near term, as I recall. The actual debt is well over $110 trillion now, when you factor the unfunded mandates, SS obligations, medicare/aid, etc. We and our children and grandchildren are screwed.