My shield is bigger than yours! (A sad story)

[churchmouse]

Just a heads up for anyone packing Glaser in the SD/HD pistol. Bad idea. Fired directly into a target they have terrible penetration, they do however have a tendency to penetrate BETTER after going through a wall (yes they still go through the wall.)

Never got full penetration through a wall when we tried. Not saying they will but we tried and no joy.

Shot a feral pig with a 1911 .45 glaser (4 direct hits at 20 ft.) and they drilled right in.

Son shot a Feral dog and it spun around and dropped on the spot. Same caliber.

Mag-safe works well also.

 

[seldon14]

Never got full penetration through a wall when we tried. Not saying they will but we tried and no joy.

Shot a feral pig with a 1911 .45 glaser (4 direct hits at 20 ft.) and they drilled right in.

Son shot a Feral dog and it spun around and dropped on the spot. Same caliber.

Mag-safe works well also.

May be caliber dependent then. Saw a couple test, but all where 9mm.

 

[churchmouse]

May be caliber dependent then. Saw a couple test, but all where 9mm.

Never tried the 9mm version. We have them in .44 Mag and .45 ACP.
The .44 does some damage with these rounds. I do prefer the Mag-Safe rds. over the Glaser from our own impromptu non scientific red-neck testing......
but Glasers are easier to find.

 

[Giddaltti]

WoW! WJ, thanks for sharing, I can't tell you how much I've learned from this post, and the additional reading I've been doing with regards to the rounds I have. I too will have to (as a safety measure) replace my ammo every year or so. I have some that's at least 3 to 5 years old, and have never checked for seating! This was an eye opener!

 

[Frosty]

Glad your ok, my grandpa had a .357 blast off a bad round, which detonated a round next to it, something like that, I wasn't born at the time, but the shrapnel came back and blinded him in one eye!

 

[WallyJJ]

resolution

Just an update to anyone interested...

S&W stated that they believe the gun did not malfunction and that their best guess was an over charged round. They offered to replace the gun at a reduced rate. After discussing the possibility of just having them send the gun back to me so that I would have my magazines, they lowered the replacement price even lower. I agreed to the deal and in addition they sent me the original magazines to keep.

I also forwarded their comments and a couple pictures to Corbon. Corbon was not responsible for these rounds since they bought the Glaser company after these were made but without me asking, they offered to pay the portion S&W was charging me for replacement.

I am very happy with the customer service at both S&W and Corbon and feel that both companies went above and beyond to help me resolve this issue. I also want to make it clear that I did not try to "strong arm" or "bargain" with either company. I just contacted customer service and let them know what happened. They took the lead and offered to help me. Something to remember for all of us when we work with these companies. Again, both S&W and Corbon treated me very well!

In addition to the replacement shield, my wife bought a shield and I bought a full size M&P 9. Glad to be shooting again!

Thanks again for everyone's comments in this thread. I appreciate all the support.

WallyJJ

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Just an update to anyone interested...

S&W stated that they believe the gun did not malfunction and that their best guess was an over charged round. They offered to replace the gun at a reduced rate. After discussing the possibility of just having them send the gun back to me so that I would have my magazines, they lowered the replacement price even lower. I agreed to the deal and in addition they sent me the original magazines to keep.

I also forwarded their comments and a couple pictures to Corbon. Corbon was not responsible for these rounds since they bought the Glaser company after these were made but without me asking, they offered to pay the portion S&W was charging me for replacement.

I am very happy with the customer service at both S&W and Corbon and feel that both companies went above and beyond to help me resolve this issue. I also want to make it clear that I did not try to "strong arm" or "bargain" with either company. I just contacted customer service and let them know what happened. They took the lead and offered to help me. Something to remember for all of us when we work with these companies. Again, both S&W and Corbon treated me very well!

In addition to the replacement shield, my wife bought a shield and I bought a full size M&P 9. Glad to be shooting again!

Thanks again for everyone's comments in this thread. I appreciate all the support.

WallyJJ

Thanks for the update, and nice to hear that both companies stepped up.

 

[edeekeos]

WOW. Glad to see everyone helped you out, and is getting the situation taken care of. Some truly great companies!

 

[ZX-14R]

Very cool! Gotta love when great companies make things right!

 

[Ruffnek]

Just happy that you lived to type about it!

 

[HoughMade]

That's a happy ending!

 

[rockhopper46038]

That's about as good a resolution as could be expected. Glad you're back in business!

 

[DIRTROAD]

Wow what a post I have learn a lot I am glad everything worked out so well makes me think about ammo i have had a long time some I bought some I have reloaded

 

[michelob]

I'm glad I came across this thread. First off, I'm glad that OP is ok after that incident. It's also good that S&W and CorBon worked with him to make it right. I now have to think about how I treat my SD ammo. I have recently switched from .40 to .45. I sold my .40 Shield and replaced it with an XDs, and traded my HK USP compact .40 for a Kimber Pro CDP II. I am trying to replenish my ammo supply. We all know it is difficult in these times...Anyhow, my defense ammo for my .40s was old. I mean several years old. I guess I'm just going to have to start cycling through my defense rounds annually. It'll be fun. Expensive, but fun.

Thanks OP. Good luck!

 

[calcot7]

WOW!!!!!! I wonder if a bullet is still in the barrel? Maybe slide a pencil or something down and see how far it goes??

This was my thinking also. Are you sure the round prior to the explosion felt like a full power load?

 

[churchmouse]

I just love a happy ending.

 

[throttletony]

very glad to hear that BOTH companies stepped up.
This was a very good and informative thread.

 

[s&wluvr]

I, too learned a lot from this thread. Thank you for sharing and thanks to all who responded. I certainly will start to use my older self defense hollow points up and but new on an annual basis. This makes a lot of sense and can certainly alleviate any safety issues that could arise. Again, thanks everyone.

 

[ccolip2189]

man i am glad your ok and same thing happened to me with my mp9c and they replaced it no questions asked you should be ok

 

[Black Cloud]

Both these companies just went up on the I Prefer To Buy From list. Bravo to both for stepping up and fixing this quickly and fairly.