My prediction on 2010 and following elections

[dburkhead]

Not a particularly nice prediction, but what I see as the most likely course at this time.

First, unless something changes dramatically, Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are essentially handing 2010 to the Republicans. Some folk see that as a great good thing, but I remain skeptical. The Republican party, as an organization, shows no signs of "getting it" and the bulk of the Republican folk elected will be RINOs/Country Club Republicans. Instead of heralding a move to conservative/libertarian values, it will instead be treated as another reason to hasten the Republican party's stampede to the left. By 2012 that stampede will be complete and the difference between the two major parties, little enough now, will have completely vanished or even reversed. Yes, I am considering the idea that the Republican party will actually be more leftist than the Democrats as entirely viable.

"Third party" candidates will remain "also rans" except in a few state races having no effect on the national picture.

This may be the only thing that saves Obama's reelection chances. The Republican challenger may well be farther to the left than Obama is, as hard as that may be to believe. In either case, we will be left with a hard-left President. And somewhere around then Washington will stop even paying lip service to the Constitution. Already neither major party cares about the Constitution--they just pay occasional lip service to it and use it as a stick to beat the other party with.

 

[hornadylnl]

repped

I just got a Republican Party Census in the mail for my mom. She died over a year ago and was a big time teachers union democrat. As far as I know, she never was a registered republican. The letter states that she is representing all the republicans in her area as they can't afford to send the census to all 60 million republicans. Of course there is the section where they are begging for more money.

Soon, instead of asking Who is John Galt, we'll be asking Where is John Galt.

 

[melensdad]

Soon, instead of asking Who is John Galt, we'll be asking Where is John Galt.

As Dagny stated when climbing aboard the train for the inaugural run on the new line: WE ARE JOHN GALT

And I have to agree with her. If WE don't take action to take back this nation then we will lose this nation to socialism/communism in a whimper.

 

[Joe Williams]

Republicans cannot win without support from the Conservative base, and the Party has once again rejected conservatism. The Dems, even those who find Obama's Marxism and lack of legal citizenship repugnant, place party above Constitution, country or anything else. They will vote in lockstep in 2010. However, Conservatives are left without a home, cannot support the strange mix of anarchy and leftist politics represented by the Libertarians, and will not present a solid voting front, if they even bother to vote. Many have utterly given up on the Republic, and are preparing for social collapse and civil war. The Dems will win big in 2010, and we will not have elections in 2012.

That is my prediction.

 

[hornadylnl]

Many have utterly given up on the Republic, and are preparing for social collapse and civil war. The Dems will win big in 2010, and we will not have elections in 2012.

That is my prediction.

Count me in that many. I wasn't that way until I read Atlas. I'm not sure I'm even going to vote in the next election. What's the point when all you have to vote for is the uni party.

 

[SavageEagle]

Republicans cannot win without support from the Conservative base, and the Party has once again rejected conservatism. The Dems, even those who find Obama's Marxism and lack of legal citizenship repugnant, place party above Constitution, country or anything else. They will vote in lockstep in 2010. However, Conservatives are left without a home, cannot support the strange mix of anarchy and leftist politics represented by the Libertarians, and will not present a solid voting front, if they even bother to vote. Many have utterly given up on the Republic, and are preparing for social collapse and civil war. The Dems will win big in 2010, and we will not have elections in 2012.

That is my prediction.

Unfortunately, I think I have to agree with both David and Joe here. I think it's a mix of both because, as much as I hate to say it, even good men like Richard Behney are forced to run as Republican with little chance of winning a seat because they are "uncontrolable" in the R party. Liberitarians worry me because they are a wild card. With little backing, anarchist type stances, and little known candidates, they don't even have a chance anyway.

THere is no distinction anymore between parties. They are either Leftist or Extreme Leftist. I have little faith in the elections this time around but do plan to vote. Unless there's no one worth voting for come election day then I will cast an empty ballot. Except for local guys and gals I'm sure.

I think the best we can do is prepare and pray.

 

[CarmelHP]

I'll wait and see and work for the government I want in the meantime.

 

[jedi]

preparing for social collapse and civil war[/COLOR].

Yup...

 

[Jeremiah]

Year of Youth | Project 2012

I am a member of this group, we are trying to plan, learn think and do on any way to turn this country around. any advice/ help/ guidance would be useful,

 

[hornadylnl]

Year of Youth | Project 2012

I am a member of this group, we are trying to plan, learn think and do on any way to turn this country around. any advice/ help/ guidance would be useful,

Rid the country of the looters. Unfortunately they make up the majority of the population.

 

[rambone]

Concerning the opposition to Obama

 

[theweakerbrother]

Libertarianism.

How do we make it accessible? How do we make it work?

Vote for it while you still can before it is illegal to vote third party.

 

[NWIeng]

I concur with most of the predictions here. We're practically less than a year away from the 2010 elections and there has been no headlines of candidates/sitting representatives organizing a coalition of people to make up another 'conservative revolution'.

I will continue to vote R, but am not optimistic.

As for the Libertarian 'issue', I'll say that I agree with most of their principals, although at this point, I only see Libertarian candidates running and doing nothing but stealing away republican votes and giving elections to sitting democrats who end up receiving well less than half the popular vote.

 

[CulpeperMM]

Not a particularly nice prediction, but what I see as the most likely course at this time...

i am out of daily rep to give or i would +1 you.

This is good analysis. I agree with you. i was fed up with Bush and the Republican drunken sailor congress (apologies to any drunken sailors on INGO) that ended in 2006. I voted straight ticket 3rd party where possible (Constitution Party, Libertarian, etc...) in 2008. McCain would be pushing the same or similar policies that Obama is now, just more quietly and successfully.

The Lord has given us a wake up call in the form of the arrogant one in the White House. Now we have the responsibility to get out and educate people and organize for the restoration of our Republic.

Let's pray that we can get our country back from the socialists at the ballot box in 2012, but let's not reward the Republicans in 2010. If there are valid 3rd party candidates in your area, vote for them. The nation needs to leave the corpse of the current two parties behind. They have been infested with graft, greed, and evil.

 

[tharlow514]

Republicans cannot win without support from the Conservative base, and the Party has once again rejected conservatism. The Dems, even those who find Obama's Marxism and lack of legal citizenship repugnant, place party above Constitution, country or anything else. They will vote in lockstep in 2010. However, Conservatives are left without a home, cannot support the strange mix of anarchy and leftist politics represented by the Libertarians, and will not present a solid voting front, if they even bother to vote. Many have utterly given up on the Republic, and are preparing for social collapse and civil war. The Dems will win big in 2010, and we will not have elections in 2012.

That is my prediction.

It seems a little drastic to say that we will not have elections in 2012. Unless by that you mean that we will not have a candidate worth voting for. I do agree that it looks like something drastic will have to happen to get the power back into the hands of the citizens.

 

[Joe Williams]

It seems a little drastic to say that we will not have elections in 2012. Unless by that you mean that we will not have a candidate worth voting for. I do agree that it looks like something drastic will have to happen to get the power back into the hands of the citizens.

Obama and his cronies have siezed our banking and manufacturing industries, they are on their way to locking down the medical and pharmacueutical industry, they control all the mainstream news media but one and will have it effectively sidelined before 2010 simply by cutting off access. His administration has a history of contempt for our nation, way of life and Constitution, and even before taking office stated they were ready to "rule" the nation. They are using the current swine flu manufactured panic and threats of quarantine and military force to talk about locking this country down during the same time frame as an election would be held. It is a practice run. The Dem leadership is running Congress without regard to law, history, or the people of this country, who they refer to as racists, terrorists, hicks who live in "flyover country." They view us as peasants to be used and conquered.

If the Marxists aren't thrown out of power in 2010, I meant what I said about 2012 literally. We will not have elections.

 

[Go Devil]

Obama and his cronies have siezed our banking and manufacturing industries, they are on their way to locking down the medical and pharmacueutical industry, they control all the mainstream news media but one and will have it effectively sidelined before 2010 simply by cutting off access. His administration has a history of contempt for our nation, way of life and Constitution, and even before taking office stated they were ready to "rule" the nation. They are using the current swine flu manufactured panic and threats of quarantine and military force to talk about locking this country down during the same time frame as an election would be held. It is a practice run. The Dem leadership is running Congress without regard to law, history, or the people of this country, who they refer to as racists, terrorists, hicks who live in "flyover country." They view us as peasants to be used and conquered.

If the Marxists aren't thrown out of power in 2010, I meant what I said about 2012 literally. We will not have elections.[/quote]

So, what you are saying about 2012 is that it will be a time of target rich environments. Can we try to vote with copper jacketed lead?

 

[El Cazador]

I think you guys are tossing in the towel a little too soon. A number of odd-year elections are coming to a head, and the Conservative candidates are doing very well. The Virginia Governor's race has a strong Conservative beating the dickens out of the Dem candidate by double digits, and almost a double digit lead in the heavily Democrat counties. The special election for the Representative seat in NY has the Conservative running as an Independent and doing very well; three or four points behind the R candidate Scozzafava and gaining points quickly. The Dem in that race is so far behind, he oughta quit to save face. The Reps are supporting the liberal Scozzafava, but Hoffman (the Conservative-I) has the momentum.

Rubio in Florida is gaining on Crist for a Senate seat, enough so that Crist is very concerned. Rubio is another serious small government, low tax, stop spending Conservative. Arlen Specter in PA is disliked intensely by both sides now, and the Republican running for that Senate seat -Pat Toomey- is another small government Conservative who's doing very well there. I've read that Harry Reid may very well lose his seat in Nevada, Rangel has a serious challenger now, and Waxman does too. Here, Lugar has reportedly decided to retire, and aren't there a number of challengers gearing up for his and Bayh's seats?

A recent poll by Rassmussen noted the entire country considers itself conservative in one form or another by 80-some percent. Yes, the GOP "leaders" in DC might not have gotten the message entirely yet, but there is plenty of them looking about watching what's going on in the country, too. The Tea Parties, the march on DC, the Conservative blogs and the constant stream of information and encouragement from conservative talk radio is keeping the people informed and charged up. Heck, even a bunch of Democrats are starting to look at the Obama Administration wondering what the heck they're doing. I don't think this Conservatism movement will stall anytime soon, either. We have another 2-1/2 years of Obama and his merry bunch of Statists 'til 2012, so the main impetus that drives the Movement isn't going anywhere soon, barring them really stepping in it so badly it will drive an Impeachment trial. Obama's already proven he's never going towards the center, there's little chance things will slow down enough for the population to have their attention taken away by something shiny like the economy getting better.

I think 2010 will be the start of the takeback of the Republican Party by Conservatives, and not those in name only. If there's enough elected to Congress to change the balance of power, it will at least stymie this Administration. I don't see Conservatives taking over Congress in '10 (yet), but if some of these Statist/Collectivists plans come to fruition, then they may well. They're getting on dangerously thin ice by sounding serious about taking money from the populace, and there are plenty of polls showing the majority of the people are not pleased. If they do pass the Obamacare bill, or Cap and Tax, then even the people sitting on the fence collecting splinters will be losing money from their government checks, and 2010 might well be a bloodbath for the Statists. 2012 should be a clean-up of the survivors of '10 then, or a continuation of the shift towards Conservatism.

It may not be sunshine and roses for the next two years or so, but I don't think I'll have to break into my caches yet, either.

 

[SavageEagle]

It may not be sunshine and roses for the next two years or so, but I don't think I'll have to break into my caches yet, either.

You make good points, and I'm not gearing up for war either. But I seriously doubt any of this will make a difference. Don't forget they are redrawing the voting districts too. That'll have an effect later. But I really feel that nothing is going to change. I think we've got a long hard road ahead of us and the house with odds in their favor have the deck stacked against us.

I'm not throwing in the towel, but I'm not too hopeful for our future either.