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    Keith_Indy

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    OK, I did a search on this idea, didn't see anything relevant. :n00b:

    Was wondering if there is any interest in creating sub-forums under Survival and Disaster Preparedness for each MSG area?

    I think it would help organize and help get the ball rolling (or gather steam) for everyone interested in participating in their areas public activities.
     
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    I agree, it would make it much nicer to get people in certain areas talking more, instead of having to read through every page of the MSG thread just to find out what group you are in and who's in the same boat as yourself.
     

    Bendrx

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    I think there should be a sub forum some place, even if it was just 1 for all the MSGs, we can always put the zone we're in on any new threads. I expect that alot of the info discussed would benefit the other MSGs too. A rolling sticky thread for each MSG might work okay too, wouldn't be my preference but the Mods might go for that sooner than a sub forum.
     

    Grizhicks

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    All -- I agree with RANGER, we shouldn't be posting too much (at least about who we are & what our plans are). Posting here should be more along the lines of general interest to the whole group (ie. how to; what you need; see this article; etc.). While the suggestion of a Google (or Yahoo) group has some merit, it is also somewhere else to go log on to & look at. I know we can set up a Yahoo group what is fairly secure (only members can look at, and set it up where you don't get spam e-mails). If the MSG-2 guys want to go that direction, I'm more than willing to set it up and get it started (can also do for any other group, but would want you folks as owner/moderator). Whatever most folks think is best, I'm willing to go along with. Later, Greg
     

    ISL State CO

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    Disclaimer: This is NOT a sales pitch and I am NOT on this site to recruit anyone. As I see it, if you have a problem with a group like the ISL, ok. No amount of spit and polish is going to change your mind.

    Reading through some of these posts makes me think of the beginning days of the ISL. We had a focus on local community involvement. One of the very first things that the ISL did when we started in April 2009 was that many of us went to CPR training through the local Red Cross. We even had the opportunity to be setup and provide CPR training through one of our members via the Red Cross, but decided against it until we had gotten a little bigger. Within the next couple of months, several of us are going through CERT training.

    The point to all of this is that the ISL is NOT a group of right-wing whack jobs, hell bent on the overthrow of the government, and we’re not out chasing “black helicopters”, like many of the other militia groups in this country are. We are community based and we support our community first, and it’s generally understood that we need to defend/help our own areas first, and once secure, then we’ll provide support to neighboring counties and Brigades.

    The majority of our membership comes from emergency response personnel – fire fighters, paramedics, law enforcement, EMA personnel, nurses, doctors, etc. Many of us are prior military and we still hold our oath of enlistment dear to our hearts.

    Ok, with that said…

    It's pretty amazing to see so many people with the same concerns, thought processes, and actions. With all of the different "groups" currently in Indiana that have the same concerns for the future, I can't help but think that we are all (to a degree) helping out the Government by staying fragmented into different groups. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for security and I truly believe that each area needs to be relatively isolated from each other just in case a mole happens to infiltrate one area or another. But here's some other things to also consider...

    When the SHTF...

    * Can the regular communications methods that we all seem to be addicted too be counted on, specifically cell phones, land lines, internet, and repeater based Ham? I don't think they can be. Point to point communications will be the only way to call for help from your neighbors.

    * Can you be so sure that you can get to where the Brush Fire is before it's too late? What about road blocks and other preemptive measures that will surely be in-place before the news of an event reaches you?

    * Who's going to protect the People of your own community after you bail out to help someone half a state away? There's a certain "Heart's and Mind's" benefit to be gained by sticking around your local area. Not to mention that you know your area better than someone on the outside. Take advantage of it.

    Now obviously, the “SHTF” does not mean a tornado just rolled through your town, and also obvious is that an armed response may not be necessary, except for maybe reasons of looting. But myself having seen civilians attempt to enter a disaster area, local law enforcement will not allow that to happen. Just ask members of the Illinois Sons of Liberty, when several months ago 2 tornados hit the same town a few minutes apart from each other and members of the ILSL were denied entry, and denied by armed members of DHS. Unless you are at the center of the “incident” when it happens, and therefore making you a victim, law enforcement will not allow you in.

    I guess the point to all of this is… Is there really a need for another “group” or network? Or would it be better to join these groups and form a single network? There’s safety in numbers.

    [FONT=&quot]In Liberty..[/FONT]
     

    O2guy

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    Also in favor of a little more privacy who knows the types that monitor some of these threads.
     

    E5RANGER375

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    Disclaimer: This is NOT a sales pitch and I am NOT on this site to recruit anyone. As I see it, if you have a problem with a group like the ISL, ok. No amount of spit and polish is going to change your mind.

    I guess the point to all of this is… Is there really a need for another “group” or network? Or would it be better to join these groups and form a single network? There’s safety in numbers.

    [FONT=&quot]In Liberty..[/FONT]


    and now mabey some of you guys see why a few of us have been pushing for privacy and not posting so much about MSG on INGO. its just as effective as lighting a flare in a dark room and trying to hide.
    we all know we have the best of intensions and politics doesnt play a role in our MSG, but others just see a GROUP of armed people that are prepared, and since they arent then it scares them and guess who they call? ........ The Freedom Busters (usgov)

    lets get this private forum up sooner than later, and make sure its an invite only thing and the whole group votes and agrees on who gets invited. :twocents:.
     

    singlesix

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    If you think setting up a private group on Yahoo or Google is going to give you the level of privacy ( I assume you want) than you are mistaken.
     

    E5RANGER375

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    If you think setting up a private group on Yahoo or Google is going to give you the level of privacy ( I assume you want) than you are mistaken.


    if it were up to me, we wouldnt use the internet at all, but then we would have never found each other mostly.
    I dont think we have expectations of total privacy by using the net. we realy dont have anything to hide except our supplies.

    its like if you win the lottery you will have old "friends and relatives" coming out of the woodwork that you never knew you had. same thing if SHTF. im not sharing anything with anyone who isnt in my group.
     
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