ok so I took the cheaper plunge for "playing" and picked up the last Mossberg they had at RTS Guns in Eaton Indiana(cheap plug) Took it and went to my friends range right before dark got off 100 rounds, played with the sights, was very pleased with what she would do. I have to say for the money I'm going to have alot of fun. this one came with the 25 rnd magazine, can't wait to spend some more time on a warmer day