More union news. Chrysler

[Mad Macs]

Might explain why Chrysler products are mostly junk.

My 2011 Charger RT would disagree with you. Much nicer interior since Fiat got involved.

 

[ghunter]

I wish I could catch a nice buzz on my lunch break, but I'm not one of the fortunate few who has a job that society deems as "union worthy".

 

[Expat]

The truly sad thing is that my grandpa has told me about times when unions had quite reasonable demands (like having a reasonable chance of going home alive at the end of the day) and in cases like those mentioned above would respond to the worker complaining about getting his pink slip by saying 'the door is that way' while pointing to the exit. Truly pathetic that they protect dead weight and resort to violence and intimidation as their tools to communicate a point.

The problem is they ran out of reasonable demands. All of those were met by collective bargaining or government regulation some time ago. So to justify their existence, they moved to unreasonable demands.

 

[Farmritch]

Might explain why Chrysler products are mostly junk.

WTF?????? What does this have to do with Chrysler? same at Ford same at GM. I worked at the AM General Plants for 13 years.
Knew a guy who sold 6 to 8 cases of beer a day (bottle at a time) at the plant from the back of his truck, he iced them down every night.
There was not an empty Gaylord box that did not have an empty alcohol bottle in it around the plants.
There was a shed that was used for a shipping office out in the field for the truck drivers when they were moving 100 vehicles a day off the grounds. A couple guys brought in 3 girls and ran a cat house out of that building for almost 4 months before they got found out.
Yes I can go on and on..... all while 15 years ago these guys were making 26-40 dollars an hour doing very little and the union backing them up to the hilt for what ever transpired. I knew a guy who staggered in in the morning and never sobered up during the day with no action taken as the UAW would not allow anyone to be touched.
A UAW auto worker makes about $75,000+ a year bolting cars together gets 80 % of his pay when he retires.
I work in Hospitals & Surgery repairing equipment that if I don't repair correctly people DIE. Make about 1/2 what they do and have NO pension I can be fired at will.
These people have no idea what the real world is about and because of Unions are over paid bolt and nut tighteners, they don't even have to lift anything more than 25 Lbs.

YMMV

 

[drillsgt]

WTF?????? What does this have to do with Chrysler? same at Ford same at GM. I worked at the AM General Plants for 13 years.
Knew a guy who sold 6 to 8 cases of beer a day (bottle at a time) at the plant from the back of his truck, he iced them down every night.
There was not an empty Gaylord box that did not have an empty alcohol bottle in it around the plants.
There was a shed that was used for a shipping office out in the field for the truck drivers when they were moving 100 vehicles a day off the grounds. A couple guys brought in 3 girls and ran a cat house out of that building for almost 4 months before they got found out.
Yes I can go on and on..... all while 15 years ago these guys were making 26-40 dollars an hour doing very little and the union backing them up to the hilt for what ever transpired. I knew a guy who staggered in in the morning and never sobered up during the day with no action taken as the UAW would not allow anyone to be touched.
A UAW auto worker makes about $75,000+ a year bolting cars together gets 80 % of his pay when he retires.
I work in Hospitals & Surgery repairing equipment that if I don't repair correctly people DIE. Make about 1/2 what they do and have NO pension I can be fired at will.
These people have no idea what the real world is about and because of Unions are over paid bolt and nut tighteners, they don't even have to lift anything more than 25 Lbs.

YMMV

The pay outpaced the skill set necessary for the job many years ago and they aren't even thankful for it, just keep wanting more for doing less.

 

[Leo]

I think the whole purpose of unions got out of wack, and now they are just an arm of the American socialist party, opps I mean democratic party. Their purpose is to manipulate the company AND the rank and file to make them weak and mindless for political engineering. A mindless person is far easier to manipulate. The Production unions seem to be far worse at that than the trade unions. I do not really know if the workers were drunk or had a beer or two. There is a difference. In fact in contruction trades in Germany, the management is expected to supply beer to those who labor. Drunkenness is not tolerated.

I would like to point out something else, having been salaried or management for 1/2 of my work life. I have worked for 5 different fortune 100 companies. Taking clients out to lunch where cocktails are served is not only allowed, but the bill is allowed to be turned in on the expense account. Depending of the relationship, sometimes the entertainment is done at a place that has showgirls. That gets expensed also. I was working for Westinghouse corp when they instructed us that more than 3 cocktails per man was considered inapporopriate. (Of course 3 long island iced teas would be enough for anyone) This is not just salesmen. Even floor supervisors are often taken to lunch by a supplier representives. I have driven more than a few district managers or regional managers, from my own company, a customers manager or a suppliers representives back to their office, to their homes or to their hotels after a long meeting at high dollar lounges. I also arranged to have hourly employees retrieve the cars that it was not wise for them to drive.
I have also caught high level managers working scams between themselves and suppliers. People at that level do not steal light bulbs, wingnuts annd toilet paper. They embezzle 10's of thousands.

There is LOTS of blame to go around my friends. I have always found it amazing that the only people that seem to be judged harshly are the people on the bottom who may have done the least wrong. They are even harshly judged by other wage slaves on the bottom. I am not supporting drunken or lazy workers, but at least they paid for their own beer. Things like this stink all the way up to the mahogany penthouses, not just some hammer swinging puke on a factory line.