Skip it..the only guys that say they are accurate arthe guys that own them...ask people who used to own one...they get rid of it because the mags from ruger are the only ones that work and they cost fourty to fifty bucks...the rings are not rock splid...the rear aights owork loose ...the rifle will jot group for *****...they are fun to shoot and 99% reliable...i have had four and gave up on all of them..a palmetto state armory ar 15 is better...cheaper...more user seviceable...much more accurate...i have had both the old and the new 580 series..just skip it and get an ar or if u like that style then get thw rifle riger copied ...the garand...if u plan on just setting it by your bed and shooting intruders thwn it is just fine but if u want out of the box accuraxy without buying a target model for anyrhing more than fifty yards and three to eight inch groups then skip it and get an ar 15 which are able to customized like lego....and mags cost 8-15 bucks which will work every time
I agree with you--I THINK--Hard post to read...Bill.