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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ"]YouTube - Military Preparing for Martial Law[/ame]

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    Martial Law in the US Constitution

    Constitutional Topic: Martial Law - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

    Constitutional Topic: Martial Law


    The Constitutional Topics pages at the USConstitution.net site are presented to delve deeper into topics than can be provided on the Glossary Page or in the FAQ pages. This Topic Page concerns Martial Law. Martial law is not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, but the suspension of habeas corpus is mentioned in Article 1, Section 9, and the activation of the militia in time of rebellion or invasion is mentioned in Article 1, Section 8. The Topic Page for Military Justice may also be of interest.

    The sources for this topic are, primarily, The Living U.S. Constitution by Saul Padover and Jacob Landynski (Meridian, 1995); Constitutional Law: Cases and Commentary by Daniel Hall (Lawyer's Cooperative Publishing, 1997); and ex parte Milligan, 71 US 2.





    Note: please note the spelling of "martial law." A common mistake is to spell it as "marshal law" or "marshall law." A "marshal" is a law enforcement officer of, for example, the U.S. Marshal Service. There is such a thing as a marshal, but no such thing as marshal law.
    In strict dictionary terms, martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is "under martial law," we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature. The degree of control might vary - a nation may have a civilian legislature but have the courts administered by the military. Or the legislature and courts may operate under civilian control with a military ruler. In each case, martial law is in effect, even if it is not called "martial law."

    Martial law should not be confused with military justice. In the United States, for example, each branch of the military has its own judicial structures in place. Members of the service are under the control of military law, and in some cases civilians working for or with the military may be subject to military law. But this is the normal course of business in the military. Martial law is the exception to the rule. In the United States, the military courts were created by the Congress, and cases can be appealed out of the military system to the Supreme Court in many cases. In addition, a civilian court can petition the military for habeas corpus.
    Article 1, Section 9 states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." Habeas corpus is a concept of law, in which a person may not be held by the government without a valid reason for being held. A writ of habeas corpus can be issued by a court upon a government agency (such as a police force or the military). Such a writ compels the agency to produce the individual to the court, and to convince the court that the person is being reasonably held. The suspension of habeas corpus allows an agency to hold a person without a charge. Suspension of habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.
    Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President's imposition of martial law, which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.

    In the United States, there is precedent for martial law. Several times in the course of our history, martial law of varying degrees has been declared. The most obvious and often-cited example was when President Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War. This instance provides us with most of the rules for martial law that we would use today, should the need arise.

    ex parte Milligan

    On September 15, 1863, Lincoln imposed Congressionally-authorized martial law. The authorizing act allowed the President to suspend habeas corpus throughout the entire United States. Lincoln imposed the suspension on "prisoners of war, spies, or aiders and abettors of the enemy," as well as on other classes of people, such as draft dodgers. The President's proclamation was challenged in ex parte Milligan (71 US 2 [1866]). The Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln's imposition of martial law (by way of suspension of habeas corpus) was unconstitutional.

    In arguments before the Court, the counsel for the United States spoke to the question of "what is martial law?" "Martial law," it was argued, "is the will of the commanding officer of an armed force, or of a geographical military department, expressed in time of war within the limits of his military jurisdiction, as necessity demands and prudence dictates, restrained or enlarged by the orders of his military chief, or supreme executive ruler." In other words, martial law is imposed by a local commander on the region he controls, on an as-needed basis. Further, it was argued, "The officer executing martial law is at the same time supreme legislator, supreme judge, and supreme executive. As necessity makes his will the law, he only can define and declare it; and whether or not it is infringed, and of the extent of the infraction, he alone can judge; and his sole order punishes or acquits the alleged offender."

    In this case, Lambden Milligan, for whom the case is named, was arrested in Indiana as a Confederate sympathizer. Indiana, like the rest of the United States, was part of a military district set up to help conduct the war. Milligan was tried by military commission and sentenced to die by hanging. After his conviction, Milligan petitioned the Circuit Court for habeas corpus, arguing that his arrest, trial, and conviction were all unconstitutional. What the Supreme Court had to decide, it said, was "Had [the military commission] the legal power and authority to try and punish [Milligan]?"

    Resoundingly, the Court said no. The Court stated what is almost painfully obvious: "Martial law ... destroys every guarantee of the Constitution." The Court reminded the reader that such actions were taken by the King of Great Britain, which caused, in part, the Revolution. "Civil liberty and this kind of martial law cannot endure together; the antagonism is irreconcilable; and, in the conflict, one or the other must perish."
    Did this mean that martial law could never be implemented? No, the Court said. The President can declare martial law when circumstances warrant it: When the civil authority cannot operate, then martial law is not only constitutional, but would be necessary: "If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the courts are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theatre of active military operations, where war really prevails, there is a necessity to furnish a substitute for the civil authority, thus overthrown, to preserve the safety of the army and society; and as no power is left but the military, it is allowed to govern by martial rule until the laws can have their free course. As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration; for, if this government is continued after the courts are reinstated, it is a gross usurpation of power. Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. It is also confined to the locality of actual war."

    Examples of Martial Law

    Through out United States history are several examples of the imposition of martial law, aside from that during the Civil War.

    During the war of 1812, General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law within his encampment at New Orleans, which he had recently liberated. Martial law was also imposed in a four mile radius around the camp. When word came of the end of the war, Jackson maintained martial law, contending that he had not gotten official word of the peace. A judge demanded habeas corpus for a man arrested for sedition. Rather than comply with the writ, Jackson had the judge arrested. After the civil authority was restored, the judge fined Jackson $1000, which he paid, and for which the Congress later reimbursed Jackson.

    In 1892, at Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, rebellious mine workers blew up a mill and shot at strike-breaking workers. The explosion leveled a four-story building and killed one person. Mine owners asked the governor to declare martial law, which he did. At the same time, a request was made for federal troops to back guardsmen. Over 600 people were arrested. The list was whittled down to two dozen ring leaders who were tried in civil court. While in prison, the mine workers formed a new union, the Western Federation of Miners.

    In 1914, imposition of martial law climaxed the so-called Coal Field Wars in Colorado. Dating back decades, the conflicts came to a head in Ludlow in 1913. The Colorado National Guard was called in to quell the strikers. For a time, the peace was kept, but it is reported that the make-up of the Guard stationed at the mines began to shift from impartial normal troops to companies of loyal mine guards. Clashes increased and the proclamation of martial law was made by the governor. President Wilson sent in federal troops, eventually ending the violence.

    In 1934, California Governor Frank Merriam placed the docks of San Francisco under martial law, citing "riots and tumult" resulting from a dock worker's strike. The Governor threatened to place the entire city under martial law. The National Guard was called in to open the docks, and a city-wide institution of martial law was averted when goods began to flow. The guardsmen were empowered to make arrests and to then try detainees or turn them over to the civil courts.

    Martial law and San Francisco were no strangers - following the earthquake of 1906, the troops stationed in the Presidio were pressed into service. Guards were posted throughout the city, and all dynamite was confiscated. The dynamite was used to destroy buildings in the path of fires, to prevent the fires from spreading. Troops were ordered to shoot looters. Though there was never an official declaration of martial law, the event is often cited as such. However, at all times it appears the troops took their orders indirectly from the civil authority.

    Though not a state at the time, Hawaii was placed under martial law in 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Many of the residents of Hawaii were, and are, of Asian descent, and the loyalty of these people was called into question. After the war, the federal judge for the islands condemned the conduct of martial law, saying, "Gov. Poindexter declared lawfully martial law but the Army went beyond the governor and set up that which was lawful only in conquered enemy territory namely, military government which is not bound by the Constitution. And they ... threw the Constitution into the discard and set up a military dictatorship."

    On 8/26/2005, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans was placed under martial law after widespread flooding rendered civil authority ineffective. The state of Louisiana does not have an actual legal construct called "martial law," but instead something quite like it: a state of public health emergency. The state of emergency allowed the governor can suspend laws, order evacuations, and limit the sales of items such as alcohol and firearms. The governor's order limited the state of emergency, to end on 9/25/2005, "unless terminated sooner."

    There have been many instances of the use of the military within the borders of the United States, such as during the Whiskey Rebellion and in the South during the civil rights crises, but these acts are not tantamount to a declaration of martial law. The distinction must be made as clear as that between martial law and military justice: deployment of troops does not necessarily mean that the civil courts cannot function, and that is one of the keys, as the Supreme Court noted, to martial law.
     

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    Two Thoughts,

    1st, it Displays Strict Compliance, No Resistance- Maybe that is the underlying Message intended

    or

    Someone at MTV Gets It - Lets Hope that this is the short answer

    :patriot:

    Why would a group of libbies like MTV be worried about this now that the messiah is about to reign??? :dunno:
    :cheers:
     

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    It was back in June 2008 that the Marines were at Camp Atterbury for such exercises. Although they were redeployed as part of the flooding/tornado efforts instead.

    They were scheduled for urban deployment exercises in Indianapolis. I remember the main helo landing area was to be Glendale Mall. Ironic that last nights shooting occurred at 46th and Arlington. lol

    They called it an exercise in case of a bio/nuclear attack. :n00b:
     

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    Probably not a great idea to be in a big city (like Indy) if "something bad happens" that will allow the "excuse" for this to transpire.
     

    techres

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    I get so frustrated by the focus on the one guy at the top. MTV gets it because they see the amassing of powers. We get it because we see the amassing of powers.

    WHO IS AT THE TOP IS NOT THE POINT!!!

    The amassing of these powers under Clinton was wrong! The amassing of these powers under Bush was wrong! The amassing of these powers under Obama will be wrong!

    THE PROBLEM IS THE AMASSING OF THESE POWERS!!!

    In the end who pulls the trigger on us all will not really be a question of who is at the top...

    It is the powers themselves.
     

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    Sorry I had to. I do not see the possibility of a holocaust like event happening in the USA anytime soon. I also can see why the soldiers need to train in towns across the USA, however I in no way support using the military as a police force.
     
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    The military has THOUSANDS of square miles to train in the US. There is NO reason they need to be training in US cities.

    I take that back, there is a reason; to make us complacent with seeing our military running around on US streets, violating Posse Comitatus.

    I'm a veteran, so I truly support our troops, but I am totally appalled by this.
     

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    Sorry I had to. I do not see the possibility of a holocaust like event happening in the USA anytime soon. I also can see why the soldiers need to train in towns across the USA, however I in no way support using the military as a police force.

    I could as easily counter with a similar photo reading, "Folks, time to put on your blindfolds!" You don't see the possibility of a holocaust-like event happening in the US anytime soon, but that doesn't mean it can't or won't; do you think the people of Germany saw the possibility of a holocaust-like event in 1938? Of course not....but the difference is that we have the early to mid 1940s to look back upon and see the patterns emerging again, and we can choose to be prepared and try to prevent it at the ballot box; we can try to prevent it at the mailbox, and if provoked, God forbid, we may have to try to fight back in defense of our homes, property, and lives with the ammo box. I suppose we have the option of burying our heads in the sand and ignoring it, hoping it will all just go away, but don't forget that if your head is buried in the sand, your :moon: is upraised... and don't expect any K-Y jelly when someone decides to take advantage of the opportunity you're giving them.

    Blessings,
    B
     

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    Where's the ACLU? Funny how they pick and choose.
    When Bush talked about wire taps weren't they, along with other liberal sources, screaming at the top of their lungs? He was referring to wire taps on potential terrorist threats but the left would rather the wire taps be on us rather than themselves or terrorist.
     

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    I could as easily counter with a similar photo reading, "Folks, time to put on your blindfolds!" You don't see the possibility of a holocaust-like event happening in the US anytime soon, but that doesn't mean it can't or won't; do you think the people of Germany saw the possibility of a holocaust-like event in 1938? Of course not....but the difference is that we have the early to mid 1940s to look back upon and see the patterns emerging again, and we can choose to be prepared and try to prevent it at the ballot box; we can try to prevent it at the mailbox, and if provoked, God forbid, we may have to try to fight back in defense of our homes, property, and lives with the ammo box. I suppose we have the option of burying our heads in the sand and ignoring it, hoping it will all just go away, but don't forget that if your head is buried in the sand, your :moon: is upraised... and don't expect any K-Y jelly when someone decides to take advantage of the opportunity you're giving them.

    Blessings,
    B

    While I do in all honesty respect where you are coming from, I find it highly unlikely that the federal government will start dragging people out of their homes and ordering their execution when I wake up tomorrow. There were precursors to the Holocaust, and if you are concerned about an event like that happening again, you should probably look into them. Whats the old saying "History repeats itself".
     

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    Where's the ACLU? Funny how they pick and choose.
    When Bush talked about wire taps weren't they, along with other liberal sources, screaming at the top of their lungs? He was referring to wire taps on potential terrorist threats but the left would rather the wire taps be on us rather than themselves or terrorist.

    They were screaming and did so. They were told it was "necessary in the new world post 9/11". Now those powers will hand over and a new group will do the screaming while the other will tell them it is "necessary for change and advancement". I am rather sick of both sides. In both cases they are willing to accept the violation of the Constitution for expediency and do not look forward into the future or the past.

    The whole thing sickens me with it's race towards militarization of the home front based on party loyal gamesmanship.

    I am still waiting for those who excused Bush's power grab to repent before they wail at what Obama might do with those expanded powers...
     
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