McCarthy loses Speaker vote 3 times…

[Super Bee]

Just heard on The Blaze Scalise was voted in?

** Edit- just nominated **

Looks like no Jordan then. WTF.

 

[oze]

Just heard on The Blaze Scalise was voted in?

Well, he's the Republican nominee. No clue if he'll have the votes to be named Speaker.

 

[Super Bee]

Well, he's the Republican nominee. No clue if he'll have the votes to be named Speaker.

Just edited my post. Thanks.

 

[oze]

Just edited my post. Thanks.

I just hope it's not another Republican **** show this time.

 

[wrgould3]

This country is too big and too complex for bumper sticker solutions.

There really are only a few issues that are so cut and dried that everyone can get behind them and those issues almost always resolve at the end of a gun.

Governing a diverse country with all its problems is nuanced, it requires trade-offs.

Digging into complexity and trying to find and effort solutions shouldn't be looked at as weakness.

It should be, and at one time was, celebrated.

There was a time that being the loyal opposition was still respected.

Sadly, everyone is in their own corners screaming at their own choirs not realizing that their party doesn't represent America.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[Libertarian01]

But we should not allow taxes to be raised to take care of the destitute. They made their choice.

Chief, the world is not black and white, as much as you or we may want it to be.

SOME people made a choice. Others had limited choices. Others may have done everything right and then life threw them a curve ball.

There has always been a segment of our population that has taken low wage jobs due to necessity or circumstance. Some aren't intelligent enough to learn a high wage skill. Others didn't have the resources to change their circumstances. Others tried and failed. Some succeeded.

My best friend was an excellent example. He had a well paying job, saved money, lived mostly within his means. Then he discovered he had hepatitis C at around age 50. The treatment blinded him. In the last two (2) weeks of treatment his vision went from 20/40 to 20/200. The treatment killed the hepC but blinded him. As a computer programmer he was able to avoid disability and continue working. There are a massive number of good or high paying careers that he could not have continued kept with blindness.

Had he been forced to quit working and not had the option of SSD his savings wouldn't have lasted more than 10 years, if that. He was saving and investing, but he also was raising a daughter with expensive medical bills and he and his wife were stretched. He was doing everything right and got slammed by bad luck.

Some people couldn't afford a good education. Some didn't have good primary schools to begin with. Others made bad decisions. Some bad decisions could have been overcome, others much less so.

Some folks aren't mentally strong. Just a fact. How many women stay with abusive husbands? How many people drink too much and can't stop? Human frailty exists in all of us to a greater or lesser degree.

My point is not all of the people who are poor can be put in a single box. Not all problems have one (1) solution.

Regards,

Doug

 

[Ziggidy]

But we should not allow taxes to be raised to take care of the destitute. They made their choice.

That’s cruel.

 

[miguel]

Screw Scalise. Just another goof.

 

[chipbennett]

My point is not all of the people who are poor can be put in a single box. Not all problems have one (1) solution.

Regards,

Doug

The problem is: when it comes to SS, it seems only one solution is ever proposed: forcing people into the Ponzi scheme.

 

[oze]

Here we go again.

 

[bwframe]

Here we go again.

So you are for the omnibus spending plans that hold the rest of us hostage on critically important funding with forced Ukrainian and Green New Deal spending?

 

[Shadow01]

That’s cruel.

And?

 

[Shadow01]

Chief, the world is not black and white, as much as you or we may want it to be.

SOME people made a choice. Others had limited choices. Others may have done everything right and then life threw them a curve ball.

There has always been a segment of our population that has taken low wage jobs due to necessity or circumstance. Some aren't intelligent enough to learn a high wage skill. Others didn't have the resources to change their circumstances. Others tried and failed. Some succeeded.

My best friend was an excellent example. He had a well paying job, saved money, lived mostly within his means. Then he discovered he had hepatitis C at around age 50. The treatment blinded him. In the last two (2) weeks of treatment his vision went from 20/40 to 20/200. The treatment killed the hepC but blinded him. As a computer programmer he was able to avoid disability and continue working. There are a massive number of good or high paying careers that he could not have continued kept with blindness.

Had he been forced to quit working and not had the option of SSD his savings wouldn't have lasted more than 10 years, if that. He was saving and investing, but he also was raising a daughter with expensive medical bills and he and his wife were stretched. He was doing everything right and got slammed by bad luck.

Some people couldn't afford a good education. Some didn't have good primary schools to begin with. Others made bad decisions. Some bad decisions could have been overcome, others much less so.

Some folks aren't mentally strong. Just a fact. How many women stay with abusive husbands? How many people drink too much and can't stop? Human frailty exists in all of us to a greater or lesser degree.

My point is not all of the people who are poor can be put in a single box. Not all problems have one (1) solution.

Regards,

Doug

These issues fall to family first, friends second and to tax payers as a last resort with minimal funding. I’m not here to be taxed so you can buy your lottery tickets, cigarettes, and alcohol while crying your kids don’t have anything to eat. My point is to not force taxpayers to pay for what you wouldn’t make family or extended family pay for. If you can’t justify making aunt maggie take in her disadvantaged niece, don’t think it’s fine to ask the taxpayers to do so in her place.

 

[oze]

So you are for the omnibus spending plans that hold the rest of us hostage on critically important funding with forced Ukrainian and Green New Deal spending?

Oh, I'm sorry. Have you seen the plan already? My bad; I must have missed the public release.

 

[oze]

BTW, since he enthusiastically supports Scalise, is Gaetz now a RINO? I can't keep track of who's in and who's out. Like the vendors used to cry in old Comiskey Park, "Ya can't tell yer RINOs without a scorecard!"

 

[Shadow01]

BTW, since he enthusiastically supports Scalise, is Gaetz now a RINO? I can't keep track of who's in and who's out. Like the vendors used to cry in old Comiskey Park, "Ya can't tell yer RINOs without a scorecard!"

The simple way is those that are in the freedom caucus are not RINOs, the rest are.

 

[Ziggidy]

And?

I pray you never need anything.

 

[DragonGunner]

Couch it however you want, but if you're advocating for the government to force me to pay into a system so that you can be paid out of that system, it is what it is.

You're not getting back what you paid into the system, because what you paid in was already spent. The only way the current beneficiaries get paid is because they are being paid what I and others are currently paying into the system.

I have no choice but to write it off, because there's zero chance I'm going to see anything I pay into SS. And, yes: taking money out of my paycheck to pay someone else's retirement is wealth redistribution - i.e. socialism.

I said 20 years ago I would never see SS in my life. But here we are and check number 2 in the bank. Thank you. Probably collapse soon anyways. SS gone as well as everyone’s savings and 401k. When the dollar collapses $ and stock gone also. Invest all you want and save, won’t matter.

 

[HoosierLife]

Just throwing this out there.

For less than $100-$200 a month, almost anyone could get a combo of Critical Illness, Disability, and life insurance policies with living benefits to cover most of the unforeseen.