Looks like the bumpstock ban is about to become real

[cbhausen]

Bumping (sorry!) this thread for updates...

 

[foszoe]

reported for banning!

Bumping (sorry!) this thread for updates...

 

[T.Lex]

From what I can tell, no update on the paperwork. It is just sitting there, waiting for the final rule to be published.

 

[Floivanus]

And as soon as it is posted GOA are filing a lawsuit.

supposedly

 

[cbhausen]

A question for all you lawyers out there: In the history of this country has our government ever seized (or compelled destruction of) property that is newly illegal and makes the owner of said property a felon overnight? Prohibition, maybe?

 

[MCgrease08]

A question for all you lawyers out there: In the history of this country has our government ever seized (or compelled destruction of) property that is newly illegal and makes the owner of said property a felon overnight? Prohibition, maybe?

If not, they are making up for lost time. Just look at what's happening in NJ with the "high capacity" magazine ban.

 

[T.Lex]

A question for all you lawyers out there: In the history of this country has our government ever seized (or compelled destruction of) property that is newly illegal and makes the owner of said property a felon overnight? Prohibition, maybe?

Synthetic marijuana comes to mind, recently.

Cocaine used to be legal.

 

[Mongo59]

When I was a teen we would hook our finger in a belt loop with our semi auto .22's and rattle them off.

Maybe we can outlaw belt loops.

Better yet, sue Levi Straus.

Register pants!

Start a "nudists are people too" movement.

Then we would have to mandate an open carry policy.

Start a new thread for women posing for open carry. (oh yeah)

Phew, we've got work to do. Litigating ourselves to a better society is gonna take time...

 

[DoggyDaddy]

When I was a teen we would hook our finger in a belt loop with our semi auto .22's and rattle them off.

Maybe we can outlaw belt loops.

Better yet, sue Levi Straus.

Register pants!

Start a "nudists are people too" movement.

Then we would have to mandate an open carry policy.

Start a new thread for women posing for open carry. (oh yeah)

Phew, we've got work to do. Litigating ourselves to a better society is gonna take time...

Mandated Sansabelts! It's for the children!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm not exactly sure how to interpret this. Apparently the ATF has decided to stop classifying "accessories" unless they are installed on a weapon. Does that mean you can have a bump stock if it's not on a rifle?. I mean, I don't know why you would but, if I'm understanding this correctly (and I may not be), it might at least keep people from becoming felons if they "uninstall" their bump stock, and would eliminate the need to turn them in or register them. Maybe someone smarter than me can explain this better?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...ent=2018-12-15&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

 

[lonehoosier]

I'm not exactly sure how to interpret this. Apparently the ATF has decided to stop classifying "accessories" unless they are installed on a weapon. Does that mean you can have a bump stock if it's not on a rifle?. I mean, I don't know why you would but, if I'm understanding this correctly (and I may not be), it might at least keep people from becoming felons if they "uninstall" their bump stock, and would eliminate the need to turn them in or register them. Maybe someone smarter than me can explain this better?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...ent=2018-12-15&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

Or if you have an extra stock setting next to a AR pistol or a shotgun pistol or a short barrel setting next to a rifle.

 

[KLB]

That looks like it was targeted at submissions of accessories for classification by companies, not at owners of weapons with accessories.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That looks like it was targeted at submissions of accessories for classification by companies, not at owners of weapons with accessories.

Yeah, I kind of thought that too, but wondered if it might impact the bump stock ban.

 

[Lilboog82]

So how do they plan on confiscating them if or when they get banned? There is no registry, so are they just f’ing over all the law abiding citizens who would follow the law and letting the criminals own them? Sounds like there are thousands if not millions of those things floating around.

 

[Floivanus]

So how do they plan on confiscating them if or when they get banned? There is no registry, so are they just f’ing over all the law abiding citizens who would follow the law and letting the criminals own them? Sounds like there are thousands if not millions of those things floating around.

ATF has the customer data from slidefire. Over 520,000 from them alone.

add in the number that were 3d printed, or homemade (a six position stock and a few straps of metal) and yeah, my guess is at LEAST 1 million

 

[T.Lex]

https://www.wthr.com/article/trump-administration-moves-officially-ban-bump-stocks

Leaks coming out that the final rule publication is imminent.

ETA:
Official docs do not appear to be updated. So, I'm still figuring it'll be a day-after-Christmas release.

 

[T.Lex]

Story update now includes more specifics:

The regulation, which was signed by Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker on Tuesday morning, will go into effect 90 days after it is formally published in the Federal Register, which is expected to happen on Friday, the Justice Department official said.

 

[HoughMade]

When I was a teen we would hook our finger in a belt loop with our semi auto .22's and rattle them off.

Maybe we can outlaw belt loops.

Better yet, sue Levi Straus.

Register pants!

Start a "nudists are people too" movement.

Then we would have to mandate an open carry policy.

Start a new thread for women posing for open carry. (oh yeah)

Phew, we've got work to do. Litigating ourselves to a better society is gonna take time...

This may explain why Levi Strauss has been working hard on its LGBT cred- political cover and the ability to claim victim status.

 

[T.Lex]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5635249/Bump-Stock-Final-Rule.pdf

Looks like a signature at the end of that doc, so all that's left is the technical publishing and the lawsuit(s).

 

[JTScribe]

WTG, violate the 2nd Amendment as well as the 5th. Probably even the 4th if they start doing searches to find the dumb things.