You forgot about the Koolaid.Faith is jumping off of the cliff and building your wings on the way down
You forgot about the Koolaid.Faith is jumping off of the cliff and building your wings on the way down
For that money it should have an iron clad provenance to somebody famous, or maybe an extra zero was added by mistake. Either way I hope the gardener doesn't see that.
According to supremecourt.gov the one seated in the middle is “Liberty Enthroned”.
Secular reasoning is my choice. I don't care what yours is or there's or why. And it's not one religion. It's many. And everyone who has a belief uses that belief to inform his choices in the world, and even who to vote for. This is a nation which has freedom of thought, and that includes religious thought. If you don't like that then you're the one who is free to change your domicile to one of those atheist nations which don't allow religious thinking.Secular reasoning should be the default, because we are not a nation of one belief or religion. For that, one is free to change his domicile to one of the bastions of liberty in the middle east, where religion rules supreme.
Somebody once tried to convince me that we are all doomed to a place of eternal torment, and can only be saved by eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a Jewish zombie who is not only his own father, born from a teenage virgin, but the source of the condemnation...and that this is all because a rib-woman was tricked into eating an apple from a magic tree by a talking snake.
Yeah, I'll take my chance on who is full of ****.
I think it would be more accurate to say that the founders were greatly influenced by Judaeo-Christian ideals, among others. There's a lot of Greek-Roman philosophy in there too. But, I think it's fair to say that the nation built by the founders would be a lot different without Judaeo-Christian ideals.Wrong we are founded on Judeo-Christian ideals. If you've ever read our history, and been to Washington DC you would see it about everywhere you go.
THIS. Give this book a read. Its an easy read and VERY enlightening.I think it would be more accurate to say that the founders were greatly influenced by Judaeo-Christian ideals, among others. There's a lot of Greek-Roman philosophy in there too. But, I think it's fair to say that the nation built by the founders would be a lot different without Judaeo-Christian ideals.
It just comes off as snarky and condescending.It read like someone that has taken a high school physics class and wants to tell Einstein that all his theories are wrong.
It's just unearned smugness.I don't know about that. It seems that the really vocal ones are just pseudo-intellectuals that take pleasure in ridiculing others, thinking it somehow proves they are superior.
They are also quick to point out that the seeming discrepancy between different belief systems is just a "My God is bigger than your God!" thing. They don't seem to realize that they're engaging in the same behavior. "My non-god is bigger than your God!"
If a thread becomes just overt proselytizing, come on. There are threads for that. I mean. I can roll my eyes through those posts, but then I have to take the time to. But, if it's just someone presenting some point of view on a topic from the perspective of his religion, fair game. Just don't be surprised if non-religious people push back. To your point though, the PaulF's need to calm the **** down when religion is brought up, especially in the context of how one's religion affects their worldview.Exactly! Mention God in most threads and some will try to herd you into the religion threads, ignorant of the fact of how much our beliefs are central to every aspect of our life
I resist that screed
"No one puts baby in the corner"
Most who are not religious just allow it to roll off their INGO-thickened skin but some are so filled with hatred they cannot let it go. Those often turn out to bat for the other team, in my experience
Since we're talking about it respectfully, that's exactly why I'm a non-believer. I don't like to commit things to belief until I have a reasoned basis for it. I mean it doesn't have to be a fact. Sometimes strong intuition leads to belief and sometimes that works out and sometimes it don't. But faith? Nah.See, thats the thing. Faith by definition relies on a belief that you cant explicitly prove. If you could prove it, it wouldnt be faith but fact. And that is where the non believers fail. They want spiritual faith to be spiritual fact before they believe. But it doesnt work that way.
I'd say that's a cocky SOB who has the confidence in his fabrication skills to jump off a cliff and then build the means to escape death on the way down. I'd be very impressed unless there was an anti-climactic splat. Then I'd just chalk it up to folly.Faith is jumping off of the cliff and building your wings on the way down
I respect that.Since we're talking about it respectfully, that's exactly why I'm a non-believer. I don't like to commit things to belief until I have a reasoned basis for it. I mean it doesn't have to be a fact. Sometimes strong intuition leads to belief and sometimes that works out and sometimes it don't. But faith? Nah.
I was gonna post a because there was nothing but space that showed up, but in quoting your post I can see what looks like part of an ISBN. Googling it, The Thousand Year Leap? Is that it?THIS. Give this book a read. Its an easy read and VERY enlightening.
Amazon product ASIN 0880801484
I think its valuable bookshelf material. Something to loan out. So spend the extra 4 bucks and get paperback over kindle.
Yeah, I know all the arguments. I used to make them.I respect that.
But here is another way to look at it. If I believe, do good, and I'm wrong, I'm not out anything in the end. If I dont believe, I'm out EVERYTHING in the end.
And its not about scare tactics. Just another way to look at it. If you want to JUST be a good person and do good, good for you. Ive got no problem with that.
the 5000 year leap by W. Cleon SkousenI was gonna post a because there was nothing but space that showed up, but in quoting your post I can see what looks like part of an ISBN. Googling it, The Thousand Year Leap? Is that it?
lol. sometimes I forget that thing is even there. It's a must for youtube videos anymore.the 5000 year leap by W. Cleon Skousen
Your ad blocker is eating the amazon links.
Just add INGO to the allow list and its all good. Everywhere else will still block ads. Took me forever to figure out why I couldnt see the amazon links people were posting here.lol. sometimes I forget that thing is even there. It's a must for youtube videos anymore.
Too much bother. Then I'd have to click stuff.Just add INGO to the allow list and its all good. Everywhere else will still block ads. Took me forever to figure out why I couldnt see the amazon links people were posting here.