Just dropped 300 bucks on a Saiga 12...

[Will0369]

what about the benelli m4, I would have to say it is the fastest semi auto shotgun I have ever pulled a trigger on.

 

[shooter521]

Shooter521 - Did you convert that?

with a little help (like, a fully equipped machine shop) from a friend, yes.

I have another S-12 that was converted professionally. both work.

 

[kungfupipe]

saiga 12 conversion

the conversion isnt that difficult and only requires a small amount of tools. i am basically mechanically retarded, but with the help of YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.and http://http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-template/Videos-and-Links/Page and Mississippi Auto Arms, Inc ::, Your Source for Saiga, AK47, AR15, Tromix, Glock, and SKS firearms and accessories" i was able to get through my first one with hardly any problems. be warned though, it can be addictive once you see how many options there are now. i think you will have fun and in the end you will probably want another s12.

 

[vitamink]

Should you need help with the conversion, i've done a few. Shooter, i noticed you have a factory 8...you should sell it to me as they aren't very rare and not worth much money

here's a picture of my 12.

Should you need a rail, i recommend the chaos extended quad. Should you need a drum go with the Md arms.

The first thing you need to do is unscrew the gas selector and make sure you have at least 3 open ports. Some guns were shipped with 2 (vodka specials) and will need to be sent off to cadiz gun works for porting (they handle all warranty issues). After this if you gun isn't converted, you need to get that done. It makes a world of difference. There is a new gas plug out now by tac47 industries that makes it so you can run whatever shell combo you want without having to switch settings. If you need ANY help or direction, feel free to PM me.

 

[shooter521]

Shooter, i noticed you have a factory 8...you should sell it to me as they aren't very rare and not worth much money

I have (2) factory 8-rounders. I'd sell them to you, but you don't have a big enough truck to carry all the cash that would be required.

 

[100 bullets]

You got a good deal for the gun!
Not including the mags and the conversion stock and grip. If I was closer I'd ask if you want to make an extra $150

 

[vitamink]

Here are some things to look at for your saiga that you can't live without...

Tromix charging handle...kinda like rackin' a 60

You can get the chaos quad rail with hk sights...

You can put a folding stock on it, for compactness.

Or you can put a collapsible one on like mine above.

There are tons of muzzle breaks, flash hiders, and yes, even suppressors for the S-12

YouTube - ‪SuppressedRedJacketS 12‬‎

You've just started down your path to addiction... I'm already too far gone...

 

[dagibson1507]

Arent there weird rules about these converting them to pistol grip because there imports? Like a certain number of parts has to be american made?

 

[shooter521]

Arent there weird rules about these converting them to pistol grip because there imports? Like a certain number of parts has to be american made?

Yes; read up on 922(r) compliance. A converted Saiga cannot contain any more than 10 foreign-made parts from the ATF's list of 20.

 

[fordmech_2000]

Make sure you set the gas puck or plug to the proper setting for the shell you are shooting or it may damage th rifle or cause a failure to feed or eject. I belive setting one is for magnum rounds and 2 is for everything else (someone back me up on this)

 

[Juggernaut]

What's a Saiga????

 

[vitamink]

What's a Saiga????

Don't let him fool you folks. He's the saiga havenist dude i know.

 

[Juggernaut]

Don't let him fool you folks. He's the saiga havenist dude i know.

What!?!? your the "Fun Police" now too???
There goes my plans for the evening!! LOL!!!

See ya in Aug!

 

[DrPrepper]

Welp guys I wanted to get back to you, thanks for ALL the great info VitaminK!

I really appreciate it. I might pick up one of those charging handles.

Welp I took it out, basically, runs great with buck and slugs, or higher brass shells, light target loads are a no-go. with either setting.

Other than that, runs like a champ, good cheek weld with the stock iron sights too. Made some bleach bottles run across the field no problem

I like the stock sights, I might forgo the red dot, this thing is pretty nice just as is.

Probably just get a flashlight, and call it good.

The trigger pull, is nothing less than SWEET. I like it.

Still not sure what its good for, but I like it

Enjoy my effeminate bedspread shot.

 

[Juggernaut]

Welp I took it out, basically, runs great with buck and slugs, or higher brass shells, light target loads are a no-go. with either setting.

Getting stovepipes FTE?

Polish up the hammer....
New G2's need some break in or polish...

just enough drag with a new g2 to slow down the carrier...

 

[DrPrepper]

Its not even working the action. the bolt doesnt move.

Some pretty powder puff loads tho, walmart bulk pack game loads work fine so I am going to call it good.

 

[Juggernaut]

Its not even working the action. the bolt doesnt move.

Some pretty powder puff loads tho, walmart bulk pack game loads work fine so I am going to call it good.

Hmmm... that ain't right... even with junk loads it should short stroke...

 

[vitamink]

Im short stroking just thinking that you paid 300$ for that....should've cost you a lot more for a converted s12.

 

[DrPrepper]

OK I do have some questions, one is.. it is REALLY hard to get the mag in with a closed bolt. Is the right thing to do, lock the bolt back, load the mag, send the bolt forward? I mean at the moment thats the only thing that works.

Also the mags are pretty tight in the mag well, I mean they are in there. You have got to really sneak em in there to get them to be able to lock in.

What is the preferred way to get a red dot on these suckers? Aimpoint Micro knockoff on a ultimak rail work ok? Also thinking about the Galil style handguard, going to order that today I think. The stock one is kinda.. meh.

I am liking this gun more and more the more I play with it

 

[ammoguy62]

yea you got a great deal let me know if you run into another deal like that.