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Junior Seau dead
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I think the only thing that is going to solve this issue is getting rid of the NFL. Players are getting bigger, stronger and faster. It's only going to get worse, no matter now many new nanny rules they incorporate.
Yes, turn it in at the door when you leave.
hammer24
Master
I hate to agree, but the way the game is played now, they can't get rid of the head injuries. The way these guys train and are armored up they are human missiles. I heard coach Ditka make an interesting point a few years ago, to paraphrase he stated the best way to get rid of the serious concussions was to change the equipment. No...not safer helmets, but the smaller thinner gear they used in the old days. He contended that if guys went out there with a leather helmet and minimal shoulder padding that it would greatly change the game back to a tackling league vs. the high impact collision league it is now.
To further the point, during the recent lockout I often heard an eye opening statistic that NFL players had the second shortest life span of any profession...second to only professional wrestlers. Research what has happened to the members of Pittsburgh's steel curtain teams and it will be surprising at how many of them have met a premature demise.
...anyway RIP Junior
I heard this on the radio as well. I didn't know he drove his car off a cliff a couple years ago. Sad that some people can't adjust after doing one thing for their entire lifetime. Made me think of shawshank redemption.
Unfortunately, it might be his undoing. The whole concussion deal will be brought up ad nauseum for the next month or two.
I don't know how true this is, but I've read that men who shoot themselves usually do in the head and women who shoot themselves usually do it in the heart. If true, the implications of that is fascinating, considering the differentiation of reasoning and emotion between the sexes.
Women do it to save their face... Vanity even in the face of death.
Seau didn't tell us why, although the obvious assumption would be the same as Duerson's.
Linebackers and lineman experience an impact on nearly every play. They say running backs wear out from the repeated hits, the marginal differences that make a great running back are lost. With lineman and linebackers, creating that big hit is their skill. Modern day gladiators...
Seau didn't tell us why, although the obvious assumption would be the same as Duerson's.
Linebackers and lineman experience an impact on nearly every play. They say running backs wear out from the repeated hits, the marginal differences that make a great running back are lost. With lineman and linebackers, creating that big hit is their skill. Modern day gladiators...
I hate to agree, but the way the game is played now, they can't get rid of the head injuries. The way these guys train and are armored up they are human missiles. I heard coach Ditka make an interesting point a few years ago, to paraphrase he stated the best way to get rid of the serious concussions was to change the equipment. No...not safer helmets, but the smaller thinner gear they used in the old days. He contended that if guys went out there with a leather helmet and minimal shoulder padding that it would greatly change the game back to a tackling league vs. the high impact collision league it is now.
To further the point, during the recent lockout I often heard an eye opening statistic that NFL players had the second shortest life span of any profession...second to only professional wrestlers. Research what has happened to the members of Pittsburgh's steel curtain teams and it will be surprising at how many of them have met a premature demise.
...anyway RIP Junior
I do think that going backwards in technology for the helmets MIGHT change things. If the players didn't have a false sense of safety regarding their brains, they'd not be as likely to lead with the head. Seau was a solid tackler and things happen and people get hurt but far too many players don't worry much about fundamentals anymore.
Indy_Guy_77
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Everyone needs to keep a level head when it comes to all this being the result of concussions...
There is simply NOT enough of a sample size.
It is ALL SPECULATION at this point. And it is intellectually dishonest to blame football and/or concussions.
I'd venture that the suicide rate for retired NFL players is right in line with that of the general population.
Yes, most all suicides are tragic. I'll not debate that.
There is simply NOT enough of a sample size.
It is ALL SPECULATION at this point. And it is intellectually dishonest to blame football and/or concussions.
I'd venture that the suicide rate for retired NFL players is right in line with that of the general population.
Yes, most all suicides are tragic. I'll not debate that.
When the Cheering Stops
Sounds like it's about 6x the average. If my kids want to play a contact sport, they can play rugby.
Sounds like it's about 6x the average. If my kids want to play a contact sport, they can play rugby.
I don't understand why someone would commit suicide and shoots themselves in the chest? You'd think they would put a .45 in the mouth or under the chin? In the chest? that needs to be thoughly investigated. I guess I've been advising these suicidal freaks the wrong way to kill themselves.
hammer24
Master
Scooped! good find. I was about to post that exact link. 6X the national average is HUGE!
Life expectancy for these guys is between 51 and 55 years!
Life expectancy professional football player
I do agree that we should hold off on blaming concussions, but there seems to be a troubling trend.
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
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Need corroborating evidence... Like an actual statistical analysis.
Note how they didn't cite their source?
-J-
Let's not rush to drink the media kool-aid regarding the "it has to be because of the football hits" nonsense. The media has a vested interest in sensationalizing this story to maximize its profit potential. Duerson, Seau, others....they all had problems that had nothing to do with their involvement with the NFL. Countless thousands played the game and did not commit suicide. Understand why the media needs this "CTE" nonsense and you can then see that you should ignore it.
Seau is dead because he had issues totally unrelated to football. Period.
Seau is dead because he had issues totally unrelated to football. Period.
I don't understand why someone would commit suicide and shoots themselves in the chest? You'd think they would put a .45 in the mouth or under the chin? In the chest? that needs to be thoughly investigated. I guess I've been advising these suicidal freaks the wrong way to kill themselves.
Not a fan of reading other posts before responding, eh?
