Is The Government Shutdown Affecting You Directly?

[BigRed]

Maybe they were starting to see some folks recognize how useless and bloated the federal government is and that it needs to be abolished.

 

[T.Lex]

Well, he took ownership of it early on, maybe he'll be able to own the re-opening, too.

But, what happens in 3 weeks when the Dems still haven't given him what he wants?

Another shutdown, that he'll own, and now they know they don't have to give him anything. They can wait him out.

 

[T.Lex]

Maybe they were starting to see some folks recognize how useless and bloated the federal government is and that it needs to be abolished.

Tell that to the people flying into/out of LaGuardia, or waiting to open a business (while still being on the hook for the lease and other fees) for an SBA loan, or not buying a house because the federally subsidized loan wasn't moving.

 

[BigRed]

Tell that to the people flying into/out of LaGuardia, or waiting to open a business (while still being on the hook for the lease and other fees) for an SBA loan, or not buying a house because the federally subsidized loan wasn't moving.

None of which would be an issue if the federal government was not involved in the first place.

 

[JettaKnight]

Maybe they were starting to see some folks recognize how useless and bloated the federal government is and that it needs to be abolished.

One can hope. Or it might have backfired and some will do everything they can to prevent that teet from ever disappearing again.

Time will tell.

 

[jedi]

None of which would be an issue if the federal government was not involved in the first place.

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[T.Lex]

None of which would be an issue if the federal government was not involved in the first place.

On the last 2, it gets into some pretty deep policy issues. (Regardless how we got here, we are where we are; any politician trying to get rid of those programs is going to have a short career.)

With regard to air travel, though, I think there's some role for federal authorities to provide security. Now, personally, that's a vital role, so I'm not sure why they would be shut down/not paid.

 

[mmpsteve]

Well, he took ownership of it early on, maybe he'll be able to own the re-opening, too.

But, what happens in 3 weeks when the Dems still haven't given him what he wants?

Another shutdown, that he'll own, and now they know they don't have to give him anything. They can wait him out.

For better or worse, he's going to go the Emergency Powers route, mark my words.

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[DoggyDaddy]

Hopefully Trump will play this up and emphasize all the concessions he HAS offered to make in an attempt to come to an agreement. He should make it clear that when this 3 weeks is up, it will shut down again unless the Democrats agree to some compromise. The Democrats have offered NOTHING. But yeah, Trump is the obstructionist. Happy the employees will get paid. Not happy with the way it's happened.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

For better or worse, he's going to go the Emergency Powers route, mark my words.

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That wouldn't surprise me. He should also make clear that he plans on vetoing every single piece of legislation that a Democrat comes up with that doesn't address immigration reform, including funding for a wall in some form. He's offered reasonable compromises. The Democrats want obstruction? That's what they'll get.

 

[JettaKnight]

Hopefully Trump will play this up and emphasize all the concessions he HAS offered to make in an attempt to come to an agreement. He should make it clear that when this 3 weeks is up, it will shut down again unless the Democrats agree to some compromise. The Democrats have offered NOTHING. But yeah, Trump is the obstructionist. Happy the employees will get paid. Not happy with the way it's happened.

I'm not.

We just paid for a one month vacation for all "non-essential" employees who were locked out.

Well, I mean, I'm happy for them, but not happy that we, as tax-payers, paid a month of wages and got zero productivity in return.

 

[BigRed]

On the last 2, it gets into some pretty deep policy issues. (Regardless how we got here, we are where we are; any politician trying to get rid of those programs is going to have a short career.)

With regard to air travel, though, I think there's some role for federal authorities to provide security. Now, personally, that's a vital role, so I'm not sure why they would be shut down/not paid.

Yes we are here, which goes back to my point of dissolving it.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm not.

We just paid for a one month vacation for all "non-essential" employees who were locked out.

Well, I mean, I'm happy for them, but not happy that we, as tax-payers, paid a month of wages and got zero productivity in return.

Oh I understand. After the 3 weeks is up and it gets shut down again, I wonder if Trump could order congress to work without pay. No back pay either. For the remainder of their terms. Since they're pretty much worthless, they'd be earning what they deserve. $0

 

[jedi]

i dont think we controls congress salary/funding.
so basically in 3 weeks we will be back here again and nothing will have been resolved. he should of just stayed the course and told the states ya r on your own. work without us. but then again as some have pointed out. then the people would see that you dont really need the .gov for many things

 

[printcraft]

I'm not.

We just paid for a one month vacation for all "non-essential" employees who were locked out.

Well, I mean, I'm happy for them, but not happy that we, as tax-payers, paid a month of wages and got zero productivity in return.

You're making the case for layoffs just like the private sector...
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

i dont think we controls congress salary/funding.
so basically in 3 weeks we will be back here again and nothing will have been resolved. he should of just stayed the course and told the states ya r on your own. work without us. but then again as some have pointed out. then the people would see that you dont really need the .gov for many things

You're right of course. They control their own salaries (which is pretty ****ed up in and of itself but that's another story).

 

[jedi]

if u cant beat them, then join them.
or wait fund my deathstar.

 

[HoughMade]

I'm not.

We just paid for a one month vacation for all "non-essential" employees who were locked out.

Well, I mean, I'm happy for them, but not happy that we, as tax-payers, paid a month of wages and got zero productivity in return.

Heard a news blurb today about the federal workers having a backlog of work they are going to have to dig out of.

...one wonders if there will be any overtime for this.

 

[jedi]

do u really want to know?

 

[KLB]

do u really want to know?

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