The ones that had holes in them (at the PW shoot) were not his... the ones that were deep in the woods that barely had marks, THOSE were the bobcat ones, and that's why I chose to buy from him!
(I felt bad for the guy who brought the little orange one and the black one, those were thrashed in like 10 minutes!)
Don't feel bad for me, I got the steel for free and got paid to make them!
The AR 500 is nice and definately worth the money!