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  • MinuteMan47

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    You can call me whatever you want...as long as I still have the same rights and freedoms! :patriot: (and I have been called a lot of things :D)
     

    pudly

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    What, a man that for the previous 33 years was considered a subject of the royal crown used that word instead of citizen in a draft of the Declaration of Independence? He caught and corrected it. The revolutionaries had just come to the conclusion that they must have a change. How can it be unreasonable that they might slip and use old terminology occasionally? Heck, I always have trouble writing the correct year each January. What's the big deal?
     

    downzero

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    What, a man that for the previous 33 years was considered a subject of the royal crown used that word instead of citizen in a draft of the Declaration of Independence? He caught and corrected it. The revolutionaries had just come to the conclusion that they must have a change. How can it be unreasonable that they might slip and use old terminology occasionally? Heck, I always have trouble writing the correct year each January. What's the big deal?

    It's not unreasonable. The reason this is important is because it shows the progress of producing a document like the Declaration. Closer reading indicates that is the real crux of this discovery--not the actual word used.
     

    pudly

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    It's not unreasonable. The reason this is important is because it shows the progress of producing a document like the Declaration. Closer reading indicates that is the real crux of this discovery--not the actual word used.

    It's a "discovery" that they occasionally used the words of a subject of the English crown? Sounds more like common sense. I wonder how many $100K of Chinese-borrowed money it took to learn an "important fact" that anyone that simply had a little insight could guess? :rolleyes:
     
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    downzero

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    It's a "discovery" that they occasionally used the words of a subject of the English crown? Sounds more like common sense. I wonder how many $100K of Chinese-borrowed money it took to learn an "important fact" that anyone that simply had a little insight could guess? :rolleyes:

    The "discovery" is finding something we didn't know was there without modern technology.
     

    Suprtek

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    I cannot grasp the importance of this :(

    I was thinking about the possibility of certain so called leaders in our current administration using this as ammunition towards their belief that "subjects" are what we really should be. It was just sort of a "tongue in cheek" subject of conversation. I don't necessarily see it as a significant find myself. I was more interested in the reaction of others.

    :popcorn:
     

    Ol' Wiley

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    Nice read. Thanks Suprtek.
    Highlights Jefferson's belief that individual's rights and freedom were key. Subjects were controlled by their crowned one. Citizens control their government.
    Nice reaction time with the whiteout, ol' TJ!

    edit: wipeout, for those literal types
     

    Suprtek

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    Nice read. Thanks Suprtek.
    Highlights Jefferson's belief that individual's rights and freedom were key. Subjects were controlled by their crowned one. Citizens control their government.
    Nice reaction time with the whiteout, ol' TJ!

    edit: wipeout, for those literal types

    Agreed. Like others have mentioned, I think it was probably just a matter of Jefferson being accustomed to seeing the public being referred to in that manner and he caught himself. However, I could certainly see certain people wanting to believe that this was Jefferson's true mindset in order to rationalize their own opinions.

    Oh, and thanks for the rep!:):
     
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