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  • kazaam

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    I've seen this insignia in pictures and signatures here. What's the deal with it? Also, it means something different in Farsi.
     

    iChokePeople

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    Actually, I suspect NONE of you fits the more correct definition of "kafir". It's thrown around a lot lately, but to really be considered a 'kafir' by an educated Muslim, you have to have been presented Islam in an acceptable manner, one in which you had ample opportunity to accept it, and rejected it. To a more educated Muslim, Christians are generally not considered 'kafir', but a term that translates to "people of the book" (or "people of the scripture"). But that kind of takes the fun out of all of the shirts and hats that are so popular now.
     

    jbombelli

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    Actually, I suspect NONE of you fits the more correct definition of "kafir". It's thrown around a lot lately, but to really be considered a 'kafir' by an educated Muslim, you have to have been presented Islam in an acceptable manner, one in which you had ample opportunity to accept it, and rejected it. To a more educated Muslim, Christians are generally not considered 'kafir', but a term that translates to "people of the book" (or "people of the scripture"). But that kind of takes the fun out of all of the shirts and hats that are so popular now.


    You guess wrong. I would fit the definition of "kafir."
     

    KG1

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    I don't fit the description unless you count being approached at an intersection by a NOI member offering bean pies. :dunno:
     

    TheRude1

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    I like the title so much I wear it all the time !
    And I follow the teachings of the one true GOD

    aka GOD
     
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    TopDog

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    Actually, I suspect NONE of you fits the more correct definition of "kafir". It's thrown around a lot lately, but to really be considered a 'kafir' by an educated Muslim, you have to have been presented Islam in an acceptable manner, one in which you had ample opportunity to accept it, and rejected it. To a more educated Muslim, Christians are generally not considered 'kafir', but a term that translates to "people of the book" (or "people of the scripture"). But that kind of takes the fun out of all of the shirts and hats that are so popular now.

    I was under the impression that the extremists used the term freely and pretty loosely. So understanding the correct definition I wonder if the Muslim world ad hears to the correct definition or they banter the term around as much as we do?
     

    KG1

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    I don't see why this is such a big issue. I don't really care if I fit the definition or not.
     
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