Nah, I'm thinking a RIA 1911.....
Rough crowd......very rough.
Nah, I'm thinking a RIA 1911.....
Where is that damn flip off emoty. I know it is in here somewhere..........
You wanna get pulled over or something?
I have driven across the county to return a gun to a crash victims Home on more than one occasion just to avoid our property room boondoggle.
We can put a detective hold on a car for 72 hours if we need to process it for evidence, otherwise there's no hold.
Yeah, it sucks to pay a tow bill. It also sucks to pay a doctor because you got sick, a plumber because a pipe burst, etc. Such is life. Talk to your insurance company and see if they cover the tow.
They have to do a “background check” on the person before they release the firearm. They have 2 civilian employees who do all the background checks and they claim that there is such a backlog that it takes 12+ months to get one done. I call BS.
They have to do a “background check” on the person before they release the firearm. They have 2 civilian employees who do all the background checks and they claim that there is such a backlog that it takes 12+ months to get one done. I call BS.
NICS background checks take minutes. But IMPD won’t be able to use the system without an FFL. Employment background checks take only a few days tops. I’m sure most departments can do a criminal history check right from their laptops. Several years ago when I took a group of students to visit the Pentagon, it took 2 months for background checks on the whole group, and I’m sure those checks were more in depth. There is absolutely no reason for it to take 12 months except for obvious mishandling by the department. Hell, I could have a new suppressor in less time than that.
This is why Jeff Cooper advised people to own a copy of their carry weapon. Things take time, courts take time, wheels grind slowly. I don't think the Police are dragging their feet but it's no different than waiting for your tax check to arrive or Christmas as a child. It SEEMS to take forever.
It would seem that the lengthy delay is done intentionally to keep citizens from getting back their firearms. There could be many reasons for this including profit and the belief that the less firearms out there the safer LE officers would be on the streets. The first is basically theft and the second, although not without a degree of logic, is not lawfully justifiable and I suspect a violation of the 4th Amendment. Something must be done about these injustices and if anything, brought out into the spotlight of public awareness.
Would the City have to respond to a FOIA request asking how many "background checks" are performed per day? Or even inquiring of their official SOP? Or both?
This would be different if the public servants involved in this could offer legitimate rules/guidelines/specifics on why property not tied to a crime is detained from being released to the owner.
Why don't you call the Property Room and ask? The "public servants" involved in this thread have nothing to do with the policy in place, didn't assist in writing or enacting it, and don't agree with it.
I asked the firearms branch that very question yesterday. In addition to processing returns of recovered guns, they are responsible for the entire 17k+ inventory of guns that come and go through our property room each year. There are three civilians who work in there full time. That's it. Combine the volume with all the bureaucracy involved and it's easy to see why things move at a snail's pace. The gun I was checking on yesterday has been in the process of getting back to it's owner for 12+months now. The only holdup now is the recovering Officer signing the disposition form authorizing it's release. Their records show the form has been sent to the Officer twice and never returned. We are supposed to have 14 days to return those forms..... Like I said, bureaucracy.
Thank you for the pertinent information!
Wonder how much those civilian positions pay? I think one other motivated worker and myself could process 17K guns a year. That only translates to 4.5 an hour. We could do that, save the department some money and solve a whole lot of the department's public discourse. Maybe net a bonus, for making our numbers???
Now, how are we going to motivate the recovering officers to do their jobs?