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    Sen Young - may need to review state law to ensure there are appropriate penalties for improper people.

    Sen Lucas - criminals won't not commit a felony because they do or don't have a pink card.

    Mr Curry - 'shall and shall not' are in the purview of judicial determination. The Constitution is interpreted by the court not others...what the...
     

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    Charlie Brown - we don't have the intent of the 2nd amendment...we don't know what the founders meant.

    Curry - the Supreme Court has ruled that there are limits.
     

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    Lorie Girth - Community Health Network. Suicide prevention and awareness.

    Her data - IN Violent Death Reporting System. On IN State Health Dept. website.

    2011-15. Apparently, people die by suicide. 53% by firearms.

    Permit-less carry states vs IN, 2 states lower the rest higher percentage. Like this somehow is actually causal.
     

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    Other lady, a counselor. We need 'thoughtful' legislation around firearms...referenced the Brady Project, State of Washington...no cred here.

    Said teens die first by drugs then by firearms. Need to make our homes safer, communities more aware.

    Sen Young - asking question, mic down. What % of people wouldn't commit suicide is they didn't have access to a gun?

    They don't want people to have access to lethal means.
     

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    Rep Judy - how many are on psycho drugs? That is a more critical issue than access, one of the side effects is suicidal ideations.
     

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    Sen Lucas - WHO shows that the US is about mid court among countries for suicide rates...below countries that have zero right to firearms ownership.

    Girth wants to have her facts both ways.
     

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    Chris Kulpaci. NRA

    Addressing 'gun show loophole'. There is no way to skirt the fed law for purchase and transfer of firearms.
     
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