Homeless man shot to death by police while “illegally camping” in NM foothills

[steveh_131]

But there's libertarians to argue with.

That does seem to be the favorite pastime around here lately, doesn't it?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

But there's libertarians to argue with.

Libertarians to educate.

 

[steveh_131]

Out of curiosity, how many of you officers here regularly aim for the 'pecker' with your weapons?

Is this SOP, as the good barrister here would have us believe?

Again, it has no bearing on the discussion since the officer himself admitted that the discussion was not about tactics (making Kirk Freeman flat wrong, as usual), but my curiosity has the best of me.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Again, it has no bearing on the discussion since the officer himself admitted that the discussion was not about tactics (making Kirk Freeman flat wrong, as usual), but my curiosity has the best of me.

Nope. It is a tactical decision. He may have been joking about it but the B zone is a valid target.

 

[steveh_131]

Nope. It is a tactical decision. He may have been joking about it but the B zone is a valid target.

He was definitely joking, since that's what he said he was doing. Joking. Valid target or not, he was joking.

Tastelessly joking about shooting this man who he then shot.

Thats the point.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Tastelessly joking about shooting this man who he then shot.

And so? Boyd needed to be shot.

Make all kinds of jokes until one is blue in the face, Boyd still needed shooting.

And shooting him in the pelvic girdle is a valid target.

 

[CathyInBlue]

I'm a little confuzzled by some of your high falootin' jargon.

B Zone =?

balls? nards? gonads?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Out of curiosity, how many of you officers here regularly aim for the 'pecker' with your weapons?

Is this SOP, as the good barrister here would have us believe?

Again, it has no bearing on the discussion since the officer himself admitted that the discussion was not about tactics (making Kirk Freeman flat wrong, as usual), but my curiosity has the best of me.

I have only shot one person, and that was in the forehead. The IMPD range staff does train officers to aim for the pelvic girdle or head if the person being shot at is wearing body armor.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I'm a little confuzzled by some of your high falootin' jargon.

B Zone =?

balls? nards? gonads?

B zone=pecker, the pelvic girdle.

A zone=biggest part, likely torso depending on what you see.

B zone=pecker

C zone=C for computer, the head

 

[88GT]

Probably wasn't talking tactics after all.
Police chief: Officer's comments 'unacceptable'

 

[mrjarrell]

Kirk has assured us that these potentially murderous comments were indeed just fine and dandy. Obviously the chief is an ignorant wookie.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

A chief that wishes to remain chief, regardless of how messy those wheels get.

We shall see how a jury deems them.

 

[indiucky]

Lots of people where shot for "illegally camping" in 1776. They were called Indians.

The Indians were camping legally...The white settlers who crossed the Proclamation line of 1766 (went through the "Gap" as it were) were camping illegally and were shot, scalped, burned out, tortured, etc...for having the audacity to dare to try to make a better life for themselves on the frontier...The Cherokee would travel North a hundred miles or the Shawnee would travel South a hundred miles to kill the families that settled in Kan-te-ke, which was viewed by both tribes (at the time) as "The Middle Ground" and had not had any sizable native settlements in quite a spell...There was one Shawnee town near Winchester that has been identified but it seemed to be mostly a small trading center rather than a settlement.....

 

[indiucky]

I am trying to think of a job that LEOs would be dictating how you do it.

In Clark County the job they do is called "Prostitution" and the practitioners are called "Call Girls" or "Hookers".....If they are real good the Sheriff gives them a badge and a cute uniform shirt.....I can't speak for the rest of the State....

 

[88GT]

Ah, yes, the infallible judicial system. The final arbiter of right and wrong, no matter how many times it may contradict itself.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So, Boyd's family should not sue? Is it not their constitutional right to seek redress in civil court?

 

[88GT]

It is not the point of my comment to pass judgment on what a family should or shouldn't do as a response to the abuse of authority by law enforcement.

 

[SteveM4A1]

It is not the point of my comment to pass judgment on what a family should or shouldn't do as a response to the abuse of authority by law enforcement.

He knows that.

 

[88GT]

He knows that.

I know. I'm just trying my hand at the art of deceptive straw man. I don't think I'm very good at it. I have neither the incapacity of logic nor the immorality of character to pull it off very well.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I know. I'm just trying my hand at the art of deceptive straw man. I don't think I'm very good at it. I have neither the incapacity of logic nor the immorality of character to pull it off very well.

oh snap.