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    NateIU10

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    That's my guess, FoxNews has been on about it all morning and this article online:

    Second Amendment Case Still Waiting for Supreme Court Decision

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    WASHINGTON —
    One momentous case down, another equally historic decision to go. The Supreme Court returns to the bench Monday with 17 cases still unresolved, including its first-ever comprehensive look at the Second Amendment's right to bear arms.
    The guns case — including Washington, D.C.'s ban on handguns — is widely expected to be a victory for supporters of gun rights. Top officials of a national gun control organization said this week that they expect the handgun ban to be struck down, but they are hopeful other gun regulations will survive.
    Last week, the court delivered the biggest opinion of the term to date with its ruling, sharply contested by the dissenting justices, that guarantees some constitutional rights to foreign terrorism detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The 5-4 decision, which Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote for his four more liberal colleagues, was the first case this term that broke along ideological lines.
    The conservative-liberal split was seen frequently last term, including in cases that limited abortion rights, reined in voluntary school desegregation plans, made it harder to sue for pay discrimination and prodded the Bush administration to combat global warming by regulating tailpipe emissions. Kennedy was the only justice in the majority in all those cases, siding with conservatives in all but the global-warming dispute.
    It's hardly unusual that the cases that take until late spring to resolve are the most contentious and most likely to produce narrow majorities.
    The dispute over gun rights poses several important questions. Although the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, the court has never definitively said what it means to have a right to keep and bear arms. The justices also could indicate whether, even with a strong statement in support of gun rights, Washington's handgun ban and other gun control laws can be upheld.
    Officials at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said recently that they expect Washington's 32-year-old handgun ban to fall but believe that background checks, limits on large-volume gun sales and prohibitions on certain categories of weapons can survive.
    In addition to the guns case, the justices are still weighing whether Exxon Mobil Corp. has to pay a $2.5 billion punitive damages judgment over the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989 and whether people convicted of raping children may be executed.
    Exxon has been fighting an Alaska jury's verdict for 14 years, contending that the $3.5 billion it already has spent following the worst oil spill in U.S. history is enough. The jury initially awarded $5 billion to 33,000 commercial fishermen, Native Alaskans, landowners, businesses and local governments, but a federal appeals court cut the verdict in half.
    Some justices appeared, based on their comments when the case was argued in February, to favor cutting the judgment further. Justice Samuel Alito is sitting out the case because he owns $100,000 to $250,000 in Exxon stock.
    Also awaiting a decision is the case of a man sentenced to death in Louisiana after he was convicted of raping his 8-year-old stepdaughter. Only five states — Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas are the others — allow executions for the rape of a child, but only Louisiana has imposed death sentences on people convicted of the crime.
    The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman. The last executions for rape or any other crime that did not include a victim's death were in 1964.
    Retirements typically are announced at the end of the term, although it would be a huge surprise if anyone decided to retire this year with a presidential election looming and little prospect of a nominee being confirmed before then.
    Five justices, though, will be at least 70 by the time the court reconvenes in October. Justice John Paul Stevens is 88, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75, Justice Antonin Scalia is 72, Kennedy will turn 72 in July and Justice Stephen Breyer will celebrate his 70th birthday in August.

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    What say you INGOers? I was tempted to drive around downtown today (I'm in MD right now) but then figured WTH would I do lol. Not to mention DC streets+High Gas Prices+traffic=Not a good day for my F250 Superduty lol :thumbsup: Could alway take the H1 to mess with the liberals :) mmmm Diesly goodness :thumbsup:
     

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    I need to call my sister, she works for the Bush Administration so she would hear the answer before it would reach the news
     
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    Bill of Rights

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    Doesn't look like they're announcing it today. There's still Thursday of this week and Monday of next, however, according to their calendar. Fifteen remaining decisions, two days to announce them. I'm thinking they'll announce Heller on the 23rd. I'd be happy to be wrong on that.

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    Barry in IN

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    I was looking at a Supreme Court site today that was thinking they would wait until the last minute- the 23rd.
    For one thing, it was one of the last cases heard in the term, so should be one of the last to get a decision.
    For another, they expect a lot of chatter, good or bad, and they think it would overshadow their other decisions...not to mention they could put that off until it's time to duck out of town.
     

    Ri22o

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    It IS a bit deal! I could possibly mean the end (eventually) to the attacks on our Second Amendment rights. :patriot:OR, it could mean the end of our country as we know it. :noway:

    Freedom or Doom & Gloom?
    Hmm. I guess that IS a big deal... :dunno:

    :):
     

    epsylum

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    It IS a bit deal! I could possibly mean the end (eventually) to the attacks on our Second Amendment rights. :patriot:OR, it could mean the end of our country as we know it. :noway:

    Freedom or Doom & Gloom?

    Wow. So black and white. In reality even a positive ruling would be FAR from the end of the attacks on the 2A. I guarantee you that it will be a very narrowly focused ruling damn near almost completely only dealing with DC and that while they may recognize the 2A as an individual right, they will also okay restrictions on it and then that will leave us more or less right where we were before as what "reasonable restrictions" are would be up to MUCH debate.

    The other way, then well, I agree with your assessment on that. ;)

    If it goes our way, it is indeed a good thing. At least getting the SCOTUS to recognize the 2A as an individual right is a good thing, but it is FAR FAR from the war ending nuke we were hoping for. It will just be another battle of the war won for our side.
     

    NateIU10

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    Wow. So black and white. In reality even a positive ruling would be FAR from the end of the attacks on the 2A. I guarantee you that it will be a very narrowly focused ruling damn near almost completely only dealing with DC and that while they may recognize the 2A as an individual right, they will also okay restrictions on it and then that will leave us more or less right where we were before as what "reasonable restrictions" are would be up to MUCH debate.

    The other way, then well, I agree with your assessment on that. ;)

    If it goes our way, it is indeed a good thing. At least getting the SCOTUS to recognize the 2A as an individual right is a good thing, but it is FAR FAR from the war ending nuke we were hoping for. It will just be another battle of the war won for our side.

    Agreed 100%. Even if they say it is unconstitutional for an entire ban, the only way it would be an end-all-be-all of attacks on the 2a would for the ruling to specifically say something like "The definition to infringe upon makes any regulations of a persons firearms rights unconstitutional". That would be awesome, but how likely lol.
     

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    Wow. So black and white. In reality even a positive ruling would be FAR from the end of the attacks on the 2A. I guarantee you that it will be a very narrowly focused ruling damn near almost completely only dealing with DC and that while they may recognize the 2A as an individual right, they will also okay restrictions on it and then that will leave us more or less right where we were before as what "reasonable restrictions" are would be up to MUCH debate.

    The other way, then well, I agree with your assessment on that. ;)

    If it goes our way, it is indeed a good thing. At least getting the SCOTUS to recognize the 2A as an individual right is a good thing, but it is FAR FAR from the war ending nuke we were hoping for. It will just be another battle of the war won for our side.

    Did you not notice the word "eventually"? No, it wouldn't happen right now, I know that. BUT, it WILL give us a leg to stand on when we take our fight to court stating that our rights are being violated.

    And I think we all know what the "reasonable restrictions" would be as well. Anything the commies think they could get away with and more fighting in the courts.

    I have NO illusion that EVERY POLITICIAN will suddenly become an American Patriot. There will still be those traitors to our Constitution (re: Country) out there. The best way to handle them is to VOTE them OUT of office. And make sure we check out those who would run in their place to make sure they have the true American attitude.

    Here in IL, Blago, "The People's Republic of Chicago and Crook County" and friends, would - no doubt - fight tooth and nail to hold onto their "Socialist state" and their "control" over their "sheeple".
    Talk about the corruption going on there now! "We ain't seen nothing yet!" I can imagine "arrests" (trumped up charges) of anyone who oppose them, maybe even "disappearances"? (The "Daily Machine" lives on! Passed on from one generation to the next.)

    What I am saying is that we would at least have a DEFINATE legal dictum to back us up - IF it goes OUR way.
    I am from the "working generation". I am not afraid of hard work, been doing it all my life. I am NOT of the "gimme/you owe me" generation that expects everything to be "handed" to them.
    Even though our rights were taken from us illegally, I am not afraid to fight to get them back.
    How about you?
     

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    Second Amendment Case Still Waiting for Supreme Court Decision

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    "...Although the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, the court has never definitively said what it means to have a right to keep and bear arms..."

    hmm, maybe that's because in the past average men with average intelligence understood *exactly* what it meant! No Juris Doctorate needed.
     
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