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    2tonic

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    How 'bout you go to your local SSA office, with your SS card, your birth certificate (or some proof of citizenship) and they issue you a new number.

    Only to the people that can prove they're entitled to it.
    In other words, Julio Rodriquez probably doesn't have a legit claim to Reginald Van Spee's account, even if his fake card has the same acct number.
     

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    How 'bout you go to your local SSA office, with your SS card, your birth certificate (or some proof of citizenship) and they issue you a new number.

    Only to the people that can prove they're entitled to it.
    In other words, Julio Rodriquez probably doesn't have a legit claim to Reginald Van Spee's account, even if his fake card has the same acct number.
    Julio has paid more into SS than everyone on this platform combined.
     

    OutdoorDad

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    Doubtful.

    Julio has been paid cash to tape drywall for the 17 years he's been here illegally.
    With CERTAINTY.

    Julio (all of them) pay in if using a fake ID. With no expectation of ever receiving a benefit.
    That was your original premise.

    Absolute certainty. No doubt.

    If they are all cash economy, I appreciate their contribution to the GDP.
    And, there is not a single cent paid to them in SS benefits.
     

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    With CERTAINTY.

    Julio (all of them) pay in if using a fake ID. With no expectation of ever receiving a benefit.
    That was your original premise.

    Absolute certainty. No doubt.

    If they are all cash economy, I appreciate their contribution to the GDP.
    And, there is not a single cent paid to them in SS benefits.
    Until we finally get some communist ****tard in office who signs off on making them all "legal."
    Which is, of course, the obvious goal.


    Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants. Any policy that grants illegal immigrants amnesty — i.e., the right to live permanently in the U.S. — will likely include work permits and subsequent eligibility for Social Security and Medicare. That eligibility would impose steep costs on the trust funds for two reasons. First, as described above, many illegal immigrants are already paying into the system. Their contributions are in fact part of the Congressional Budget Office’s baseline budgetary forecasts. Amnesty would require the government to bear the added cost of these recipients’ status as new beneficiaries without the added revenue that would normally come from new contributors.7 Second, illegal immigrants tend to earn less and work fewer years in the U.S. than the average participant, meaning amnesty will provide them an above-average return on their contributions.

    In short, illegal immigrants as a group are net contributors who partially pay into the trust funds while receiving little in return, but amnesty would transform them into net drains who receive more in benefits than they contribute in taxes. CIS has estimated the per-recipient cost of this dramatic change in status to be $129,000 in present value.8 If 10 million illegal immigrants receive amnesty, the total cost to Social Security and Medicare would be roughly $1.3 trillion, equivalent to a one-time transfer of 6 percent of GDP.
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    With CERTAINTY.

    Julio (all of them) pay in if using a fake ID. With no expectation of ever receiving a benefit.
    That was your original premise.
    My premise said nothing about the "collective" Julio, rather, any individual who shows up with an obviously specious claim to a particular SS account.
    Absolute certainty. No doubt.
    Sorry, you're wrong. You got the premise wrong, so your conclusion is also wrong.
    If they are all cash economy, I appreciate their contribution to the GDP.
    I as well, but they suck much more out of our economy than they contribute.
    And, there is not a single cent paid to them in SS benefits.
    Really? Where do you think the IOU's are piling up for the billions in benefits all our "newest citizens" are receiving as they slink across our borders? They just made a 4 month journey from "oppression", yet they all have phones, paid the bill 4 times, and are dressed better than most of us. But noooooooo....
    we gotta give 'em all new phones, IDs, credit cards, hotel vouchers, meal allowance, resettlement fees, and on and on and on.
    Congress funds all their "wonderful works of charity" by annually raiding SSA deposits and fabricating newly printed money out of thin air.
     

    OutdoorDad

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    My premise said nothing about the "collective" Julio, rather, any individual who shows up with an obviously specious claim to a particular SS account.

    Sorry, you're wrong. You got the premise wrong, so your conclusion is also wrong.

    I as well, but they suck much more out of our economy than they contribute.

    Really? Where do you think the IOU's are piling up for the billions in benefits all our "newest citizens" are receiving as they slink across our borders? They just made a 4 month journey from "oppression", yet they all have phones, paid the bill 4 times, and are dressed better than most of us. But noooooooo....
    we gotta give 'em all new phones, IDs, credit cards, hotel vouchers, meal allowance, resettlement fees, and on and on and on.
    Congress funds all their "wonderful works of charity" by annually raiding SSA deposits and fabricating newly printed money out of thin air.

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