Guns made in the USA.

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http://www.americansworking.com/guns.html

I'm kind of confused with this list. I know Colt for one uses Walther to make their AR-22's. What about the others are they American made with exceptions also?

 

[zoglog]

Isn't Magpul made in America? For the accessories

 

[buford t justice]

Its world market on pretty much everything today. cars, computers, guns,you name it.
If the manufacture can get parts made overseas cheaper they probably will.

 

[the1kidd03]

Its world market on pretty much everything today. cars, computers, guns,you name it.
If the manufacture can get parts made overseas cheaper they probably will.

^^^ This

There's no such thing as "American made" anymore. What matters now is "American owned" company.

They buy part A from Brazil....part B from China....the steel to make part C comes from mexico....ship it all to Wisconsin to assemble them, then stamp "made in America" on it

 

[45fan]

Not sure about all the details, but that list is either dated, or incomplete. Diamondback manufactures handguns in the U.S., and they werent on that list. As far as other companies that are/arent on the list, in todays manufacturing world, it is not uncommon to have parts and pieces imported from other countries to manufacture in another. At what point does a gun become not made in hte USA, vs assembled in the US from foreign parts?

I am mainly concerned with the individual gun. If it is a good price point, and is of a quality that I feel is sufficient to function in the duty I intend to use it for, the country of origin is of secondary concern.

Cost and quality vary across the board, independent of where the gun in question was manufactured.

 

[MACHINEGUN]

NAFTA was good for everyone except Americans!

 

[RandomName]

Springfield Armory isn't on the list. My 1911 says "Geneseo Illinois" on the side of the frame above the serial number, so either the list is incomplete or they've changed since I bought mine. When the XDs came out I think they were being made in Croatia, though, so maybe that's why.

I mean the XDs were being made in Croatia, not the 1911.

 

[Lammchop93]

Springfield Armory isn't on the list. My 1911 says "Geneseo Illinois" on the side of the frame above the serial number, so either the list is incomplete or they've changed since I bought mine. When the XDs came out I think they were being made in Croatia, though, so maybe that's why.

I mean the XDs were being made in Croatia, not the 1911.

If you serial number stars with an "N", then it was made in Brazil. Also, on the bottom of the barrel end of the frame, it may say Brazil. I know the older ones were made here in America, but the newer ones are made in Brazil.

 

[shooter521]

I know the older ones were made here in America, but the newer ones are made in Brazil.

Not necessarily; all of Springfield's 1911s with an "NM" prefix serial number are made here. Lately we've been seeing more and more of these (even on lower-end models like the Mil-Spec and Loaded), as Springfield is having some kind of a dispute with the Brazilian firm that was doing the work for them (Imbel?) and has moved more work back to Illinois.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why did they leave off so many USA makers?

 

[RandomName]

If you serial number stars with an "N", then it was made in Brazil. Also, on the bottom of the barrel end of the frame, it may say Brazil. I know the older ones were made here in America, but the newer ones are made in Brazil.

Mine starts with an "N" but it doesn't say Brazil anywhere on it. I bought it new in '02 or '03, can't remember exactly. It seems to be that it came with a white card with a US Flag on it in the case, and that the card said "Made in the USA". Maybe I can scare up the case and look if I can remember where I put it.

 

[Kagnew]

^^^ This

There's no such thing as "American made" anymore. What matters now is "American owned" company.

They buy part A from Brazil....part B from China....the steel to make part C comes from mexico....ship it all to Wisconsin to assemble them, then stamp "made in America" on it

Yep. I pretty much gave up on "American-made" several years ago when I bought a Mercury Tracer. Mercury = "american-made", right? Turns out it had a Japanese engine and transmission (Mazda, as I recall) and was assembled in Hermosillo, Mexico. My Dad thought that was pretty funny until I pointed out the "maple leaf" sticker on the door pillar of his Chevrolet pickup.

 

[thompal]

Not necessarily; all of Springfield's 1911s with an "NM" prefix serial number are made here. Lately we've been seeing more and more of these (even on lower-end models like the Mil-Spec and Loaded), as Springfield is having some kind of a dispute with the Brazilian firm that was doing the work for them (Imbel?) and has moved more work back to Illinois.

Have you noticed any quality differences between the US-made and foreign-made Springfields?

 

[thompal]

Yep. I pretty much gave up on "American-made" several years ago when I bought a Mercury Tracer. Mercury = "american-made", right? Turns out it had a Japanese engine and transmission (Mazda, as I recall) and was assembled in Hermosillo, Mexico. My Dad thought that was pretty funny until I pointed out the "maple leaf" sticker on the door pillar of his Chevrolet pickup.

My wife's father is retired GM, and he wanted her to get a Chevy when she was in the market for a car. She settled on a Chevy Tracker, which her dad approved of. She bought it, and when I went to get the Chiltons, I found out that it is actually the one for the Suzuki Vitara. Same body, interior Suzuki engine. I told him that the only way I was going to get a car made in the US was to buy a Subaru.

He was not amused.

 

[cesna250]

Interesting. Thanks for Posting!

 

[downzero]

Have you noticed any quality differences between the US-made and foreign-made Springfields?

It's like night and day.

 

[Bushido Devil Dog]

It's like night and day.

So just how crappy are the U.S. made ones?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

My wife's father is retired GM, and he wanted her to get a Chevy when she was in the market for a car. She settled on a Chevy Tracker, which her dad approved of. She bought it, and when I went to get the Chiltons, I found out that it is actually the one for the Suzuki Vitara. Same body, interior Suzuki engine. I told him that the only way I was going to get a car made in the US was to buy a Subaru.

He was not amused.

Or a Honda... (Greensburg)

 

[griffin]

I found out that it is actually the one for the Suzuki Vitara.

Yes, the Tracker was made at CAMI Automotive in Canada. CAMI is a joint Suzuki/GM venture. As you discovered, the Tracker and Vitara are the same.

 

[calcot7]

^^^ This

There's no such thing as "American made" anymore. What matters now is "American owned" company.

They buy part A from Brazil....part B from China....the steel to make part C comes from mexico....ship it all to Wisconsin to assemble them, then stamp "made in America" on it

Just wait until all that info has to be stamped on each firearm manufactured.