But Kirk, tell us, what would be a proper backstop for example?
But Kirk, tell us, what would be a proper backstop for example?
You are correct... If the catch on my Hk, and the firing pin block both fail at the same time, my Hk can possibly go bang on accident... Of course you are more likely to be struck by an astroid.........All firearms, all of them, can discharge upon loading or unloading and do NOT need fingers on triggers to go bang. I know some on INGO fight me over this, but if the space shuttle can go up like a bottle rocket your $100 piece of steel/plastic can malfunction too.
Remember, every time, every single time you load or unload the gun can go bang regardless of where your finger is.
I now have a barrel of sand in my trunk for reloading at the range! Thanks Kirk.Rhino.
To be honest, Kirk is the reason I put a 5 gal. bucket of sand right outside the door from my kitchen to my garage.
You are correct... If the catch on my Hk, and the firing pin block both fail at the same time, my Hk can possibly go bang on accident... Of course you are more likely to be struck by an astroid.........
Yep Murphy's Law will rear its ugly head at the most inconvenient and inopportune times. If we use basic safety procedures which were thought of before some of us were born, when Murphy appears we will just be red-faced and nobody will be injured.I thought that was the point of muzzle awareness. Anything mechanical has the potential to break at the most inconvenient times.
To go back along w/ the topic at hand, what do you INGOers recommend as a course of action for going to a gun shop?
Do you recommend just leaving your gun locked in your car?
Do you recommend planning your gun shop visit to just go unarmed?
Do you recommend loading/unloading in the parking lot using as much SAFE backstop as humanly possible?
I know that most (Kirk, I'm lookin' at you) don't advocate unholstering your gun in public (unless you need to use it in defense of course) so, in all seriousness, what do you think is the proper protocol for making sure you enter the gun shop while obeying their rules?
To go back along w/ the topic at hand, what do you INGOers recommend as a course of action for going to a gun shop?
Do you recommend just leaving your gun locked in your car?
Do you recommend planning your gun shop visit to just go unarmed?
Do you recommend loading/unloading in the parking lot using as much SAFE backstop as humanly possible?
I know that most (Kirk, I'm lookin' at you) don't advocate unholstering your gun in public (unless you need to use it in defense of course) so, in all seriousness, what do you think is the proper protocol for making sure you enter the gun shop while obeying their rules?
I guess I posed my question b/c I've never been to a gunshop that doesn't have that sign and while I know that sign doesn't have legal bearing on its face, I've just always obeyed. The only place I've ever been checked is Bare Arms in Noblesville. I had to actually unholster and show a cleared chamber.
Do you (and others) just ignore the sign at your LGS?
I guess I posed my question b/c I've never been to a gunshop that doesn't have that sign and while I know that sign doesn't have legal bearing on its face, I've just always obeyed. The only place I've ever been checked is Bare Arms in Noblesville. I had to actually unholster and show a cleared chamber.
Do you (and others) just ignore the sign at your LGS?
I have seen this happen with a brand new ruger .17 bolt action. While at a public range a guy pulled up and sat at the rest next to us. Started talking to him and he told us he had just left the gun show and wanted to sight in his scope. After loading he closed the bolt and it fired. We all thought (including him) that he must have had his finger on the trigger when he slammed the bolt shut. While loading another round into the chamber all eyes were on him. His hand was way back on the stock and finger was no where near the trigger. Yep it happened again. Nothing touched the trigger and the gun fired. He unloaded and headed back to the gunshow o talk to the dealer. Last I seen him, do not know what happened after that.
Hormonal imbalance?Don't waste your time. He's always like this.
After getting my first 1911, which was also my first handgun, I was amazed to see a light strike on the primer of the chambered round after unloading it. I don't know how close it was to an AD, but I've seen fired rounds with a similar size strike. The lesson that chambering a round can cause it to fire was learned very quickly. That gun got a spring change and all guns get loaded over a safe area after that.
On the signs in the gun shops, I do see them around and have never given them much thought. I just pull the shirt over it and do not touch the gun in public. Loading and unloading unnecessarily introduces a risk that we need not have.
After getting my first 1911, which was also my first handgun, I was amazed to see a light strike on the primer of the chambered round after unloading it. I don't know how close it was to an AD,
I missed it I guess. Can you please post it up? Is this a post or video of someone not trying to bash Hk's, or is it by someone reputable? Eh, either way, let me know where it is. Was it a USP, Hk45, P30, or was it a P7, vp70, Hk4...? Which one?Did you not see the post up-thread? The one where the HK slamfired?