so, a few of my buddies know that i am the right guy to come to if shtf....if you had to choose 3 or 4 extra guns to buy for your buddies in case of a shtf scenario, what would they be? cheaper the better
^^^This^^^Shovels, axes and hoes. After they have dug the trenches and built the barricades, then after a few more weeks of garden chores, they might have earned the opportunity to train with a weapon.
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And then eventually I'll arm them with mosins and high points, if that's not good enough they can use them to upgrade.
When coworkers or friends jokingly say to me "when the SHTF I am coming to your house." I jokingly reply "No. No you are not." They always get the sarcasm and realize I am serious.so, a few of my buddies know that i am the right guy to come to if shtf....if you had to choose 3 or 4 extra guns to buy for your buddies in case of a shtf scenario, what would they be? cheaper the better
When coworkers or friends jokingly say to me "when the SHTF I am coming to your house." I jokingly reply "No. No you are not." They always get the sarcasm and realize I am serious.
Yes and no...I always offer to help them select guns and figure out food and water for storage. Few take me up on the offer. The gun you give your "buddy" is the same one he will use to shoot you in the back.
I have a community, but I already know everyone and what they are capable of doing. If they don't already own guns, chainsaws, trucks, garden tools and dogs to make and protect their gardens, what possible value could they have?Soooo....
Since you have never told me that I am cool to visit the Earldom of Wisconsin, post SHTF?!
Yes and no...
No family unit will be able to provide for their OWN security completely. Trying staying up in shifts pulling guard and another shift doing chores, it will soon show you the value of community.
The second half of my comment was less directed at you and more at the masses that think they can go it alone with the 4 person family unit....I have a community, but I already know everyone and what they are capable of doing. If they don't already own guns, chainsaws, trucks, garden tools and dogs to make and protect their gardens, what possible value could they have?
SHTF is not the day you start team building and handing out rifles like an episode of Andy Griffith gone bad.
PPS the other point is you don't need me and I don't need you SO that makes it all good. The non-preppers fall into the cannibalism thread. Eat them, use them as bait or to fertilize the garden.
If SHTF forces me to have to go to Wisconsin, have no doubt that I will be robbing and plundering my way to you...PS sure you can drive up, but first thing we do is go raid the Bourbon aisle at Woodmans, otherwise what value do you have?
We were cool till that...I may go there today, if I do I will get some pics.
Is the K98 still In service today? The Mosin can be upgraded to something similar to the R700. The K98 is a good rifle but they cost upwards of $500 sometimesI don't get the whole mosin thing, I would think that the un-intiated would be far better served with 10 22's or as already mentioned Hi points,something small and light weight and manueverable.
Yeah mosins are cheap, way better than a rock, but for someone with little firearms experience they would not be my first choice.
Russian troops were killed at the rate of four to one by the german invaders, so if those are acceptable numbers to you by all means grab a mosin.
If wars were won by body count alone, the germans won both world wars. So if your hell bent on defending yourself with a hundred year old bolt gun you might want to get a k98, a proven winner.
...friends jokingly say to me "when the SHTF I am coming to your house." I jokingly reply "No. No you are not." They always get the sarcasm and realize I am serious.
Entertaining comment, but this is so true. It's a shame to say, but one needs to be especially cautious when dealing with "Internet friends."
The OP is a perfect example of this. If SHTF it will take little time to realize they must evac the ghetto that is Indy. And where is it our friend and clueless buddies gonna go?
hmmm...maybe i should get some stuff with some more firepower...
So if we're being invaded by germans we should have at least 4 mosins for each member of our family arm others with and we should be okay.I don't get the whole mosin thing, I would think that the un-intiated would be far better served with 10 22's or as already mentioned Hi points,something small and light weight and manueverable.
Yeah mosins are cheap, way better than a rock, but for someone with little firearms experience they would not be my first choice.
Russian troops were killed at the rate of four to one by the german invaders, so if those are acceptable numbers to you by all means grab a mosin.
If wars were won by body count alone, the germans won both world wars. So if your hell bent on defending yourself with a hundred year old bolt gun you might want to get a k98, a proven winner.
Armedindy,
I guess I will back it up here. What is your mission? Besides SHTF. I mean what will you and your "crew" be doing? How do you operate, training levels, organization etc, without violating OPSEC.
Take a look at that, and that will dictate weapons selection.
If there hasn't been that much thought to it, then, weapons selection really isn't that important but its fun to do on the internet.