Gun Show Classic Phrase: "I won't pay that... That's what I'd sell it for..."

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  • andyrping

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    I visited the Muncie Gun Show this morning for the first time; decent show nonetheless, but obviously not the 1500. I brought along a couple of handguns I wasn't too anxious to get rid of, but I'm broke and figured if something neat came along, I wouldn't want to be empty handed...

    Anyway, I fully understand, and accept, that dealers need to make money and how it is done with "used merchandise" is to acquire it for less than the resale value.

    However, to me it seems like this phrase is a silly thing to say when you approach a guy and ask what he would like to get out of the guns he's carrying, and he politely discloses his price. Apparently though, some don't see it as being a little odd. I recieved this response upon being approached three separate times- with one feller being quite contemptious about it. I just simply reply again with, "Well I guess you agree my asking price is fair if that is what you would sell it for..." and I typically get quite a baffled look. :) Something along the lines of, "but I'm entitled to steal this from you... Don't you understand?" :rolleyes:

    So, anybody else think this phrase ought to be put to rest already?

    Now, I will say it is an entirely different scenario when entering a gunshop looking to sell or trade. Then I would say it is a logical thing to say to a "prospective seller." But a gun show is a bit different... there is a little more of a level playing field, especially if your not sitting behind a table...

    Just my .02-
     

    printcraft

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    I've sold gun at the shows from time to time, I've never gotten the
    "I won't pay that" reply. Usually just the "thanks anyhow" if they
    don't like my price. I use the same language "thanks anyhow"

    Usually I follow the $50 rule. I know what I'm looking for and the approximate price I'll pay before I go.
    If I see someone with something I'm looking for I'll ask the price, if it's $50 + or - I'll talk. If not.... "ok, thanks anyhow"
     

    snapping turtle

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    You have to remember that whatever you have is not worth anything and whatever they have is worth it's weight in gold.

    Just normal gun show talk.

    I always low ball walkers in a show because i think they need to sell it for cash so I go low and hope for the best deal I can get.
     

    DeadeyeChrista'sdad

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    We all know about buy low and sell high, and the thought that someone walking around a gun show carrying anything worth selling is probably desperate... But that's not always, obviously, the case. I don't get too ruffled about guys with attitude, but I really do prefer a little civility, even if we can't agree on prices. A guy who doesn't treat me dismissively is a heck of a lot more likely to see me looking at his table again, or taking him seriously next time he approaches me about my triple barreled AK57....





    .Speaking of treating me dismissively, stopped by Fred's again today... (why do I aggravate myself like this??) for a little something, and as soon as he had my 9 american dollars, he was on to the next "sucker" without looking back to possibly LAY OUT the pistole I was asking about to let me see it.... Now I know 9 bucks ain't gonna feed Fred very long... but sheesh!!
     

    andyrping

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    I always low ball walkers in a show because i think they need to sell it for cash so I go low and hope for the best deal I can get.


    And there's no problem doing that so long as it is carried out in a decent manner. People are entittled to ask, other's are entittled to set thier price and people are entittled to decline... All about the free market! It is just odd (and uncalled for) how some will be upset when they can't have what you do. Sort of like socialism, I suppose....
     
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    csm47362

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    +1 for the good come back.

    The worst thing about the Muncie show in my opinion is there is mostly just want-to-be FFL private sellers. It is not a show I would try to sell at. I have found a few good deals so I guess it is worth the time.
     

    Trujillo107

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    I visited the Muncie Gun Show this morning for the first time; decent show nonetheless, but obviously not the 1500. I brought along a couple of handguns I wasn't too anxious to get rid of, but I'm broke and figured if something neat came along, I wouldn't want to be empty handed...

    Anyway, I fully understand, and accept, that dealers need to make money and how it is done with "used merchandise" is to acquire it for less than the resale value.

    However, to me it seems like this phrase is a silly thing to say when you approach a guy and ask what he would like to get out of the guns he's carrying, and he politely discloses his price. Apparently though, some don't see it as being a little odd. I recieved this response upon being approached three separate times- with one feller being quite contemptious about it. I just simply reply again with, "Well I guess you agree my asking price is fair if that is what you would sell it for..." and I typically get quite a baffled look. :) Something along the lines of, "but I'm entitled to steal this from you... Don't you understand?" :rolleyes:

    So, anybody else think this phrase ought to be put to rest already?

    Now, I will say it is an entirely different scenario when entering a gunshop looking to sell or trade. Then I would say it is a logical thing to say to a "prospective seller." But a gun show is a bit different... there is a little more of a level playing field, especially if your not sitting behind a table...

    Just my .02-


    I agree 100%
     

    42769vette

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    i had a dealer tell me "i have 3 at home id sell for half that" i said "great let me get your address or a place to meet and ill take both of them". he said "they arn't for sale" i said "so you wont sell them for half my asking price" i think i was asking 175 for a 870. it was a few years ago so it wasn't a great "dealer" price but it was a fair price and i sold it that day for 175.

    i understand the dealers are there to make money but somtimes they are rediculas. there is one dealer i see at every show i dont remember his name but ill see him tomorow in richmond. i try to avoid his table and dont even look at his guns because i know he will **** me off to no end. the last few times he has seen my guns and ask me "what do you have" ive just said its not forsale
     

    IndyBeerman

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    . I recieved this response upon being approached three separate times- with one feller being quite contemptious about it. I just simply reply again with, "Well I guess you agree my asking price is fair if that is what you would sell it for..." and I typically get quite a baffled look. :) Something along the lines of, "but I'm entitled to steal this from you... Don't you understand?" :rolleyes:


    The only time I have had this happen to me was at 1500 Gun & Knife show I was at the moment, can we say a little miffed because of a transaction that fell through with a with a dealer on a AR because of his arrogant attitude and no more than walked 10 feet away when a guy that was beside me asked me how much I was selling my Taurus 940 for that I had just bought a hour earlier at the show brand new. Told him the price and got the "I won't pay that... That's what I'd sell it for..."

    So I fired back "Well since I just bought this brand new, how about I just tack 100.00 on for stupidity and then you can weasel me back down to my purchase price." Got this look :n00b:, and told him "Here's your sign" and as I turned and walked away I looked at my best friend and said "Here's your Stupid sign" The moment of laughter was worth it, and I owe it all to Bill Engvall because this was right after he had done this live on the Bob & Tom Show, and was well worth it.

    YouTube - Here's Your Sign - Christmas Edition by Bill Engvall
     

    andyrping

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    The only time I have had this happen to me was at 1500 Gun & Knife show I was at the moment, can we say a little miffed because of a transaction that fell through with a with a dealer on a AR because of his arrogant attitude and no more than walked 10 feet away when a guy that was beside me asked me how much I was selling my Taurus 940 for that I had just bought a hour earlier at the show brand new. Told him the price and got the "I won't pay that... That's what I'd sell it for..."

    So I fired back "Well since I just bought this brand new, how about I just tack 100.00 on for stupidity and then you can weasel me back down to my purchase price." Got this look :n00b:, and told him "Here's your sign" and as I turned and walked away I looked at my best friend and said "Here's your Stupid sign" The moment of laughter was worth it, and I owe it all to Bill Engvall because this was right after he had done this live on the Bob & Tom Show, and was well worth it.

    Haha, nice! :): I think next time I will make some of those signs up before I go and hand them out as needed.

    Speaking of stupidity... After one of the fellers was done telling me about he gets brand new Ruger SP101's for $350, I told him I'm looking to sell to a private individual and not a dealer. He then said that would be very dangerous and since it is in my name (funny too because I bought it from a private seller, and told him that) if someone got it and committed a crime, I would be the one charged for it. He then told me that if I do want to risk it, LTCH or not, to make sure I get the buyer's driver's license number and most definately his social security number. :laugh: I was trying to tune him out at this point, but another bystander who was really into his "knowledge" began conversing with this smarty pants. They got on the subject of carry/transport and smarty pants said whatever you do, don't drive through Carmel with a handgun, even if you have a LTCH.... The Carmel Police will confiscate it immediately to make sure it isn't stolen. At this point, I had to chime back into the conversation because I applied for my LTCH in Carmel and met with the chief of police there who happened to be a super gun friendly guy. So, I told smarty pants about that and he said that it isn't required to meet with the chief of police when applying and all I needed to do was to tell them that it was my constitutional right to be able to carry... :nuts: I decided from that point I had enough of this guy and that show.
     

    2cool9031

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    Having rented tables at the Kankakee IL gun show for about 10 years prior to moving to Indiana...if someone was selling something ...I would ask how much they wanted for it...They would name their price...either I would buy it or take a pass. I would never give them a lowball price and then turn around and put it on my table for twice what I gave them. Unless I gave them what they asked for.
     

    snapping turtle

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    I have had tables at shows before but prefer to just walk with trade items in a carpet bag/backpack. If it is openly for sale i will put a sign on the bag.

    Mostly we had out knives. Knife collectors seem to be a little nicer on average than a gun collectors/shooters. Just a general observation. We had a blast overall.

    Want to go to a real good gun show try to get someone to take you to the ohio gun collector show. You have to be a guest of a member first year, then you can apply for membership and if accepted you can go all the time. There you will see the one of one hundred to employees only stuff and the 4000 dollar shotguns, civil war pistols and stuff that is kind of for sale but mostly to show off at the event. No blow guns, coins, books on killing people, meteorites, screw collections, tee shirts, bumper stickers and candy for sale just rare and collector pieces that you won't see for sale at the 1500. It is a real nice gun show and if they let you hold it don't be surprised if they give you a felt towel to hold it with.
     

    cce1302

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    I have had tables at shows before but prefer to just walk with trade items in a carpet bag/backpack. If it is openly for sale i will put a sign on the bag.

    Mostly we had out knives. Knife collectors seem to be a little nicer on average than a gun collectors/shooters. Just a general observation. We had a blast overall.

    Want to go to a real good gun show try to get someone to take you to the ohio gun collector show. You have to be a guest of a member first year, then you can apply for membership and if accepted you can go all the time. There you will see the one of one hundred to employees only stuff and the 4000 dollar shotguns, civil war pistols and stuff that is kind of for sale but mostly to show off at the event. No blow guns, coins, books on killing people, meteorites, screw collections, tee shirts, bumper stickers and candy for sale just rare and collector pieces that you won't see for sale at the 1500. It is a real nice gun show and if they let you hold it don't be surprised if they give you a felt towel to hold it with.

    +1 for OGCA. I grew up in Ohio and went to a few of there shows with my dad (FFL) and helped with his table. Loved the show when they still had it in Cleveland.
     
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