Grumpy AR..

[mvician]

Thanks. I have been researching this a bit since being told I was ignorant. Indirectly but still told none the less. I find out since my ignorant post that this was older steel with the coating you mention. It has been traded with a warning.
We do not run steel in our guns for this very reason. It is a personal choice.

If I post something that is not correct please just say so and I/we will all learn something which is one of the positive reasons for this forum. I am anything but ignorant. Silly, at times. Ignorant, no.

Again, thanks. This is how we learn.

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ignorant  
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lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
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Once again, the lacquer coating on the old Wolf steel case or the Brown Bear, Tula, or what ever brand......does not melt. I have no idea what you may have cleaned out of the chamber, but it was not melted lacquer coating from the steel case.


Being ignorant is only a bad thing if you choose to remain so.

 

[churchmouse]

Ignorant | What is the Definition of Ignorant? | Dictionary.com


ignorant  
Use Ignorant in a sentence Origin
ig·no·rant   [ig-ner-uhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2.
lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3.
uninformed; unaware.
4.
due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.



Once again, the lacquer coating on the old Wolf steel case or the Brown Bear, Tula, or what ever brand......does not melt. I have no idea what you may have cleaned out of the chamber, but it was not melted lacquer coating from the steel case.


Being ignorant is only a bad thing if you choose to remain so.

Agree to a point. My ignorance of steel ammo is noted. No idea what was in the chamber either but it was a bear to get out. All I could think of was the coating on the steel casing. As stated we do not run the steel in our AR's.

This is how we learn.

 

[mvician]

Agree........


it's just that most will repeat what they read with no first hand knowledge. I've run thousands of steel case rounds, have only had one case stick in the chamber after not scrubbing the chamber for a long time.



a good read on the subject......

The Box O' Truth - Educational Zone #18 - Shooting Wolf steel-cased Ammo in an AR15

and from the BRNAUL ammo company

BARNAUL - Lacquer Sense

 

[mvician]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZB3UfG960&feature=relmfu[/ame]

 

[churchmouse]

Good solid info.

 

[Bubbajms]

I've read so many arguments for/against steel ammo, I thought I just HAD to give it a try.. and I have a decent amount left, so I'm going to keep on trying it. I just found it really strange that it runs no problem with metal USGI mags, but is a heap of trouble with a PMAG..

 

[mvician]

ok, how do you make 2 posts vanish, but if I click to edit mine, it is still there, and if I click quote on the other it is still there ?


ETA
hmmmmm......now they are back. WIERD

 

[Bubbajms]

There were a bunch of blank posts that now have text in them.. glitch in the program, maybe?

 

[mvician]

There were a bunch of blank posts that now have text in them.. glitch in the program, maybe?

That's what it looks like

 

[Cerberus]

I have been thinking about this for a long time. You might think I am nuts or weird.

But......

The Russkies do not field any military rifle in .223.

Why have they graciously built production lines to produce steel cased ammo in .223 for foreign export? To supply cheap .223 ammo that doesn't work in US made Ar-15 rifles? At least for very long....

Since they are commies, the profit motive does not exist. Seems like, if you supplied your enemy with crap ammo, the victory is already won....

Why are they flooding our market with cheap crap ammo? Why do you continue to buy it?

Just a thought.

Oh dear Lord