Funny email chain from armslist

[seedubs1]

I had a good laugh about this. The guy reminded me of the soup nazi from Seinfeld..."NO SOUP FOR YOU." I never heard back from him anyway, enjoy the read

(For the record, I'm not complaining. I really could care less about this deal not happening. I just found this guys email etiquette hilarious.)

Also, I'm pretty positive this was a scam based on this guys responses. So anyone dealing with "Kelvin," be warned.



Message from: me
Do you still have the xds? If so, what is your bottom line?




Kelvin Frank wrote:
Yes is still for sale,where are you located?



From: Me
Columbus Indiana. I'm about 45 minutes south of Indy.



Kelvin Frank wrote:
Well i would consider i ship gun to your ffl dealers address




From: Me
I can likely drive to pick it up. Where are you located?




Kelvin Frank wrote:
south keystone av Indianapolis,I could only ship to your ffl




From: Me
If you're in Indianapolis, I can pick it up in person. I'm an Indiana resident, and it's legal for me to own a handgun. I've got a valid Indiana LTCH and drivers license, and a face to face transaction is legal in Indiana with no FFL involved.

Indy isn't very far from me. I can drive to you to make the transaction.

Why would you want to ship to an FFL?





Kelvin Frank wrote:
Then for get about it,no deal!




From: Me
No need to get angry. I'm asking a legitimate question. I've done many firearm trasactions over armslist and INGO face to face, and they've all been fine. In Indiana, you don't have to go through an FFL, so I'm just asking why you only want to ship to an FFL.

I'd be uncomfortable sending payment sight unseen to someone I don't know. I'm not saying you are a scammer, but there are scammers out there.

If you absolutely must go through an FFL, I have no problem with it. Like I said, I'm legal, and have no issues filling out and passing a background NICS check. I've done it many times.

Would you be willing to meet at your local FFL face to face and do the transaction through them? This will allow you to have me checked in the NICS system for your peace of mind, and for us to do the transaction face to face so that I'm not blindly sending money to a stranger that I've never met.

I do, however, ask that you pay for the NICS check as it's unnecessary. Like I said, I have a valid license to cary and an Indiana drivers license that you can look at to show that it's legal for me to buy a gun from you if you would like.

 

[BIGnTall83]

 

[snowwalker]

So he wanted you to send him money first, a person you never met, and he would ship the gun to you? Yeah, good luck with that.

 

[partyboy6686]

My friend contacted this guy and also had the same problem. Offered to drive to him and pick it up but he was determined to ship it to a FFL. It is one of the many SCAMS on Armlist.

 

[92ThoStro]

Probably a scam
If not, then you should pay half for the PPT face to face at an FFL

No checks are required during a FTF transaction, not even a DL.

Either do no checks, cash in hand, gun in hand, or do a PPT at an FFL

A DL and LTCH mean nothing, and prove nothing anyway.

 

[Bennettjh]

I would think it's a scam. You handled it well IMHO.

 

[seedubs1]

Probably a scam
If not, then you should pay half for the PPT face to face at an FFL

I would refuse to pay for half of the NICS check at an FFL. If a seller or buyer wants it for their peace of mind, that's all on them. I think it's completely unnecessary for ftf transactions. I won't let it ruin a deal, but I'm sure as snot not paying for it.

Do I ask you to go take a driving test at the DMV prior to selling you my used car? That's what I liken a NICS check on ftf transactions to.

 

[threedhuntr]

A DL and LTCH mean nothing, and prove nothing anyway.

a DL will show IN residency and a LTCH woukd give me a bit of reassurance that person is a reasonable person to possess a firearm.

 

[SaintsNSinners]

I live off South Keystone Ave... Run into this again I would love to volunteer to meet to inspect the gun....

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I can check if its a scam for you. Just PM me your credit card number, expiration date, and the 3 digit code on the back so I can verify its actually you trying to verify if this is a scam or not...

 

[Miles42]

Sounds like a scam to me.

 

[E'villeGunner]

Wow I thing I just got hit too!

Buyer: Hello seller. please reply my email asap.I'm a serious buyer and i want to get it asap. How much is the final asking price?

Me: $500.00 firm (that is what I'm asking on Armslist)

David Freeman
Jul 2 (1 day ago)

to me
Hello,

Thanks for your reply concerning my inquiry.. The amount is a good
price for this item...I am quite comfortable with the condition and
price of the item but due to the nature of my health, I can not make
or receive phone call as I am Impaired. I am also willing to pay for
the shipment ..

I want you to hold it for me before any other interested person.
Please provide your full name, Address and your Phone number so that I
can send your payment. I will be paying you by Certified check. It
will take 2 -3 days for the payment to get to you...As for delivery, I
will make arrangements for the pick-up after you have received
payment, If this meets your approval, kindly get back to me, as soon
as possible, with your name, phone # and mailing address where payment
will be sent, so that I can make an arrangement on the Check.

Note: As soon as you have your money in hand, we can talk about the
picking up of the item. I would like you to take the posting off Arm
list today.

I am willing to provide a FFL address to ship to so that you will be
sure I am not going to possess it illegally.

Best Regards


This came back it me within mere minutes, I'm thinking it was already typed out or something of that nature, no way can someone type that much in such a short of time.
I haven't replied back, don't think I will either.

 

[seedubs1]

^^^yes, that's a scam. I get that one all the time on Craigslist.^^^

 

[CQB]

These scammers need to learn better conversational english.

 

[Bluedragon]

lol wow...about the only thing I can say is either it's a scam or he is misinformed about needing an FFL for sales. My only guess would be he read somewhere about needing a FFL to ship guns in other states and mistook that you needed them for in state as well. But then again it's probably a scam.

 

[threedhuntr]

These scammers need to learn better conversational english.

Exactly ..... dead giveaway.

 

[snorko]

These scammers need to learn better conversational english.

The poor English serves to weed out the smart folk and almost guarantee that those who reply are gullible.

 

[Ketchup]

There is absolutely no reason for him to deny a local pickup. Armslist is meant to local deals. However, I have shipped items to buyers in other states. It's just a shame that scammers have ruined this for the majority of the good/honest people out there.

 

[Ketchup]

These scammers need to learn better conversational english.

I've read somewhere that a good majority of the scams are from Nigeria.

I'm just surprised that people actually fall for them...

 

[CQB]

I've read somewhere that a good majority of the scams are from Nigeria.

I'm just surprised that people actually fall for them...

Yes, I believe this guy is also a prince who needs my collateral to regain his family's wealth but promises to return my investment ten fold.