Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[Route 45]

What usually happens when you disobey direct orders from your boss?

But let's just follow this scenario out. Okay, so you disobey orders and go to where the protests are. You see some schmucks trying to prevent the forward movement of a pickup truck, with guns drawn. You go in and arrest he two idiots. We'll even avoid the obvious part of the scenario where the angry mob does all they can to prevent you from arresting the two schmucks. Okay so you take them in to book them. I'm guessing the booking part might go as planned. And then somewhere in the process, possibly before they're even booked, your boss finds out, but let's say after booking to make things simple. What happens to the two schmucks? Probably released the same night while your ass is in deep ****. But maybe the union can help keep your job. Or not. I don't know. But betcha the two schmucks are released soon after booking without charges. Now, add in the part where the angry mob DIDN'T let you do your job. So after all that, how worth the hassles was arresting the two schmucks?

And when I say schmucks, I mean *******s. And the one looked kinda like he's also a **********. But I'm trying to cut down my use of asterisks. So schmucks.

Wow. Just ****ing wow.

"Yeah, I know they committed criminal confinement with a weapon, a felony. But man, it's just not worth it to arrest them. And what if the crowd gets mad? Hoo-boy, we can't have that. Let's go run radar on Southport Road where it's safe. Maybe we can catch some scofflaw going 10 over the limit."

 

[jamil]

Utah BLM Protesters Could Face ‘LIFE IN PRISON’ For Attacking District Attorney’s Office

Throwing the book at organized criminals. What a concept. I'm willing to bet that riots do not rise to even 10% of the level that Seattle/Portland/Minneapolis/etc are seeing.

Would like to see all violent "protesters" not sent through a revolving door. Maybe it takes attacking a DA's office to get some consequences on the table.

 

[Route 45]

Headed to the other thread, just saw Churchmouse's post.

At least HE is doing his job.

 

[Tombs]

*edit* Oh sorry, in the time I was writing this post a lot transpired lol

 

[churchmouse]

Come on peoples. No more on this topic in this thread "PLEASE"

 

[jamil]

Wow. Just ****ing wow.

"Yeah, I know they committed criminal confinement with a weapon, a felony. But man, it's just not worth it to arrest them. And what if the crowd gets mad? Hoo-boy, we can't have that. Let's go run radar on Southport Road where it's safe. Maybe we can catch some scofflaw going 10 over the limit."

That's a very uncharitable and hyperbolic retelling, which is a nicer way of saying bull****. Did you not pay attention? You don't even know it's happening because you're NOT ALLOWED TO BE THERE!!! So let's say you did go where you were forbidden to go, and you did see it happening. Are you alone? Do you have backup? How many cops went rogue with you? Once the angry mob starts attacking you, and you radio that in, I imagine the Calvary would come, orders or not. But then what? The schmucks get out the same night? I don't see a realistic senario where you get to play hero-o-justice in this.

 

[jamil]

Come on peoples. No more on this topic in this thread "PLEASE"

Okay. My last post was cross-posted. I'm done on this part of the conversation.

 

[Phase2]

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler faces re-election battle against candidate to his left

Iannarone has been labeled by some in conservative media as the “Antifa mayor” – a nickname she has embraced during her campaign.

“I am antifa,” she tweeted in September. “I stand proudly beside the good people of this city organizing in countless ways every day to oppose hate in its myriad forms.”

 

[chipbennett]

(moved to appropriate thread)

 

[jamil]

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler faces re-election battle against candidate to his left

That’s ****ing crazy. If Portland votes for that crazy *****, those voters deserve what they get but the people who oppose he don’t.

 

[KellyinAvon]

A couple thoughts: arson is a felony; Portland is a dumpster fire; I want my Country back.
[h=1]Portland riot declared as fire burns in police union offices
[/h]PORTLAND, Ore. — A fire inside a police union building led authorities in Portland, Oregon, to declare a riot and force protesters away from the offices as violent demonstrations continue in the city that had hoped for calm after federal agents withdrew more than a week ago.


A group of demonstrators broke into the Portland Police Association building, set the fire and were adding to it when officers made the riot declaration late Saturday, police tweeted. Video shot by a journalist shows smoke and flames arising from inside the building.


Several hundred people had gathered outside the offices, which are located about 5 miles (8 kilometers) north of the federal courthouse that had been the target of nightly violence earlier this summer. The Portland Police Association is a labor union that represents members of the Portland Police Bureau.


Live video had showed multiple dumpster fires had been set near the building, less than half an hour after police tweeted that “criminal activities including, but not limited to, vandalism, unlawful entry to the building, or fire starting," could be subject to arrest, the use of tear gas and/or crowd-control munitions.


Once the riot was declared — just after 11:30 p.m. — officers formed a line and used flash bangs and smoke canisters to force the crowd away from the area.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-riot-declared-as-fire-burns-in-police-union-offices

 

[DoggyDaddy]

A couple thoughts: arson is a felony; Portland is a dumpster fire; I want my Country back.
Portland riot declared as fire burns in police union offices


PORTLAND, Ore. — A fire inside a police union building led authorities in Portland, Oregon, to declare a riot and force protesters away from the offices as violent demonstrations continue in the city that had hoped for calm after federal agents withdrew more than a week ago.


A group of demonstrators broke into the Portland Police Association building, set the fire and were adding to it when officers made the riot declaration late Saturday, police tweeted. Video shot by a journalist shows smoke and flames arising from inside the building.


Several hundred people had gathered outside the offices, which are located about 5 miles (8 kilometers) north of the federal courthouse that had been the target of nightly violence earlier this summer. The Portland Police Association is a labor union that represents members of the Portland Police Bureau.


Live video had showed multiple dumpster fires had been set near the building, less than half an hour after police tweeted that “criminal activities including, but not limited to, vandalism, unlawful entry to the building, or fire starting," could be subject to arrest, the use of tear gas and/or crowd-control munitions.


Once the riot was declared — just after 11:30 p.m. — officers formed a line and used flash bangs and smoke canisters to force the crowd away from the area.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-riot-declared-as-fire-burns-in-police-union-offices

It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between Portland and the current state of affairs in Beirut.

 

[KellyinAvon]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between Portland and the current state of affairs in Beirut.

Beirut gets more press coverage and no one claimed anything nuclear in Portland.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Beirut gets more press coverage and no one claimed anything nuclear in Portland.

The riot scenes look similar though. But you're right about the press coverage.

 

[Route 45]

It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between Portland and the current state of affairs in Beirut.

I know a few INGO'ers who think that they both deserve it, so there's that.

 

[red_zr24x4]

I know a few INGO'ers who think that they both deserve it, so there's that.

Not saying they both deserve it, but if you live in either place and don't like whats happening I see 2 choices , change it or move

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I know a few INGO'ers who think that they both deserve it, so there's that.

Actually I think the citizens of Beirut have a more legitimate beef with their government than the ones in Portland.

 

[Phase2]

Actually I think the citizens of Beirut have a more legitimate beef with their government than the ones in Portland.

Not sure about that. Looks like government officials are directly culpable and had clear alternatives to allowing the damage done in both cities.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Not sure about that. Looks like government officials are directly culpable and had clear alternatives to allowing the damage done in both cities.

Yeah, good point. But the ones protesting in Portland are the ones that have been causing the damage. The ones in Beirut are protesting their government for allowing the thing that caused the damage.

 

[Phase2]

This is just one company, but it will be interesting to watch how this develops. Say: Didn't I read that NYC removed $1B from police funding?

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