Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[JettaKnight]

So your argument is that the constitution should be null and void because protecting the innocent would be politically inconvenient?

While I don't believe intervention is a good idea for most of these riots, setting the precedent that terror groups can take and hold territory without consequences is taking that a step too far.

I'm not making an argument, I'm asking a question; isn't wasn't rhetorical.

 

[foszoe]

Somewhere the discussion moved from a flag to Seattle. I agree that surrounding a group holding that flag with the military is silly. On that I agree with Jetta. However someone starting moving the goalposts to Seattle or is that picture from the group in Seattle?

The Seattle thing, which I have not heard about until oh 5 min ago reading through here, I agree with the most of you. If i can't go and conduct business because jackasses set up a perimeter and the state does not take care of it so I am "free to move about the country" then the national guard should be nationalized, drive tanks down every street knocking down all these barrels and running over anyone who tries to lay down in front of them.

See post 2707...

 

[JettaKnight]

So how would you feel about other citizens going to take it back instead of the government? Fight a militia with a militia?

We're going to need more Hawaiian shirts...

 

[Tombs]

Somewhere the discussion moved from a flag to Seattle. I agree that surrounding a group holding that flag with the military is silly. On that I agree with Jetta. However someone starting moving the goalposts to Seattle or is that picture from the group in Seattle?

The Seattle thing, which I have not heard about until oh 5 min ago reading through here, I agree with the most of you. If i can't go and conduct business because jackasses set up a perimeter and the state does not take care of it so I am "free to move about the country" then the national guard should be nationalized, drive tanks down every street knocking down all these barrels and running over anyone who tries to lay down in front of them.

Google search: Seattle Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
They call it the CHAZ in online circles.

This has been an ongoing situation for awhile.
They were demanding vegan organic food be brought in because the homeless ate all of their supplies.
Now a warlord has taken over, and is shaking down local businesses and IDing everyone to enter their homes.

Since the warlord took over, it's started gaining media traction.

 

[Hookeye]

I don't give a flip about their damn flag.
It's their attitude and actions, and I think it would be fitting to wrap a few pine boxes in it.
Find it humorous I would.

 

[Alpo]

If Bezos was like Ross Perot, he'd bring in Academi and have the whole group in flex cuffs. I doubt that more than a couple of anarchists would die. Role playing with real blood tends to calm cosplay.

 

[HoughMade]

Yeah, it's a state's capitol.

Is it?

C'mon people.

All this "The Constitution...sovereign....send in troops blah, blah, shoot em all..." and we don't even know what the capital of Washington is?

 

[nonobaddog]

These chaz clowns are not a foreign entity. They are simply a bunch of law breaking Americans, as far as I know. They should be handled by the city. If the city does not handle it, they look stupid, which is fine since that is what they are. If the city does not handle it after a while then the state should step in. If the state does not handle it, then they look stupid, which is fine since that is what they are.
I don't think this whole thing rises to the level where bringing in the active military is called for. Besides it would be a political disaster. Let the city and state look stupid for as long as they want.

 

[HoughMade]

These chaz clowns are not a foreign entity. They are simply a bunch of law breaking Americans, as far as I know. They should be handled by the city. If the city does not handle it, they look stupid, which is fine since that is what they are. If the city does not handle it after a while then the state should step in. If the state does not handle it, then they look stupid, which is fine since that is what they are.
I don't think this whole thing rises to the level where bringing in the active military is called for. Besides it would be a political disaster. Let the city and state look stupid for as long as they want.

Once again...this.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

They may be children pretending to be adults, but they're doing it. They're in control of that area right now. It needs to be taken back and order restored.

If these were right-leaning guys with guns, they would have been mowed over by now.

I assume the state sees these kids as harmless, they'll get tired of it and go home. Just "acting out".

There's a recording of a 911 call, allegedly, where the operator says "Oh that's in the (CHAZ) area? They can handle it themselves." in response to an assault. I think that's actually a reasonable response.

 

[Tombs]

 

[Alamo]

I haven't see this on INGO, doesn't show up in search. Google search looks like not a single national news organization except for Fox has covered it. Only city/local level news, and the ABA Journal. Happened a week ago:

Criminal defense attorney "protestor" shoots driver of pick up in head in Alamosa Colorado. Driver is on life support. Attorney facing attempted murder and several other charges. KRDO video shows incident from a local security camera.

https://krdo.com/news/2020/06/06/video-shows-moments-surrounding-alamosa-protest-shooting/

[video=youtube;5AMqJ2C4K4g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=89&v=5AMqJ2C4K4g&feature=emb_l ogo[/video]

 

[HoughMade]

If these were right-leaning guys with guns, they would have been mowed over by now...

...and everyone here would lose their collective **** over it.

But I get it....they're the other guys.

 

[Alpo]

I haven't see this on INGO, doesn't show up in search. Google search looks like not a single national news organization except for Fox has covered it. Only city/local level news, and the ABA Journal. Happened a week ago:

Criminal defense attorney "protestor" shoots driver of pick up in head in Alamosa Colorado. Driver is on life support. Attorney facing attempted murder and several other charges. KRDO video shows incident from a local security camera.

https://krdo.com/news/2020/06/06/video-shows-moments-surrounding-alamosa-protest-shooting/

[video=youtube;5AMqJ2C4K4g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=89&v=5AMqJ2C4K4g&feature=emb_l ogo[/video]

I'm sure he's going to be popular in prison. Free legal advice.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

It's over.

 

[daddyusmaximus]

How to fix Seattle.
Siege mentality...
The idiots walled themselves in.
They have declared war...

1. No electricity.
2. No water.
3. No gas.
4. Nobody new comes in.
5. Nobody comes out except in cuffs, or on a gurney (and cuffs).
6. No food or supplies of any kind go in.
7. Psy Ops unit blasting the national anthem on loudspeakers.
8. Electronic countermeasures to block cell service to the area.
9. Use facial recognition of those involved, for asset forfeiture.
10. No legal representation for any persons involved as they are considered an invading army. (enemy combatants to be treated as POWs, then stripped of citizenship, and deported after the conflict ends).

 

[tv1217]

I haven't see this on INGO, doesn't show up in search. Google search looks like not a single national news organization except for Fox has covered it. Only city/local level news, and the ABA Journal. Happened a week ago:

Criminal defense attorney "protestor" shoots driver of pick up in head in Alamosa Colorado. Driver is on life support. Attorney facing attempted murder and several other charges. KRDO video shows incident from a local security camera.

https://krdo.com/news/2020/06/06/video-shows-moments-surrounding-alamosa-protest-shooting/

[video=youtube;5AMqJ2C4K4g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=89&v=5AMqJ2C4K4g&feature=emb_l ogo[/video]

I feel sorry for anybody this guy has represented, he's clearly incompetent.

 

[MCgrease08]

Feds swarmed that refuge in the middle of no where, shooting those who dared step foot off of it.

I simply expect antifa to get the exact same treatment.

To be honest, I expect far worse treatment, as this is in a state's capitol, and it's 7 blocks, with numerous businesses and individuals being held hostage by warlords.

You might want to crack open an atlas.

ETA: I see HoughMade beat me to it.

 

[MCgrease08]

Their police department was over-run and they no longer possess the capacity to enforce law and order in the region.

What exactly do you consider "collapsed," if not that?

They have the capacity. What's lacking is a willingness.

 

[OurDee]

Umm, Olympia is the capital of Washington State.

Feds swarmed that refuge in the middle of no where, shooting those who dared step foot off of it.

I simply expect antifa to get the exact same treatment.

To be honest, I expect far worse treatment, as this is in a state's capitol, and it's 7 blocks, with numerous businesses and individuals being held hostage by warlords.