I'm still chewing on the things I learned at his Intro to FOF class.
MIke Swisher (Cedar Top) and I had discussed offering a Suarez Int FOF class in Indiana sometime in 2013 if anyone is interested.
Don't do it.
FoF is a path to rethinking your prior training, questioning your reasoning for carrying a gun, and potentially failing to perform well in front of yourself and others.
Those are three very strong claims for a negative flat assertion ("Don't do it.") but are only opinions without support. Care to elaborate and support those claims with credible reasoning and-or evidence?
Care to elaborate and support those claims with credible reasoning and-or evidence?
I believe there is a shade of sarcasm in esrice's first comment. He's been a huge advocate of Shay and the training from Mindset Labs and has also posted very detailed reviews on INGO. Obviously, I can't speak directly for him but I don't believe he launched that post as a negative remark against FOF training. It was probably meant to be more of a "it'll be an eye-opener" type remark.
NIFT - esrice was almost certainly being sarcastic. He's pointing out that you may not perform as expected in scenario-based training. Students who train with me will learn a lot, but the most important lessons they will learn are about themselves.
I don't teach live fire classes any more. I focus on Force on Force and combatives because I believe that those areas give a student better usable defense skills in a shorter time frame. And it's important to teach Mindset in context and under stress.
Bob,
These guys are correct in that I was being sarcastic with my "Don't do it" line. Read it as "Don't do it, because if you do you'll be hooked!"
The other 3 statements that followed are based on my own personal experiences with FoF training. I rethought, I questioned, I failed.
If you look at the links I posted you'll find that I'm a big fan of FoF and have shared my own experiences with INGOers. I would encourage everyone who carries a gun for self protection to put what they've learned to the test in scenario-based force-on-force.
I thought you were serious!