Fast food CEO: Minimum wage hikes closing locations

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The food delivery apps probably played a large part in that too. Why pay someone $20 an hour when you can outsource it to the apps.

I could see that. Every government action results in any number of unintended consequences.

 

[Leadeye]

I wonder if there will be a divide between heavily automated fast food and a chain that is more traditional. You would pay more at the latter, but I would imagine that there is a market for that.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I wonder if there will be a divide between heavily automated fast food and a chain that is more traditional. You would pay more at the latter, but I would imagine that there is a market for that.

The latter is where all the people that refuse to use the self serve checkouts at grocery stores and Walmart because "I don't work there!" would go.

 

[KLB]

I wonder if there will be a divide between heavily automated fast food and a chain that is more traditional. You would pay more at the latter, but I would imagine that there is a market for that.

A market to pay more to have people screw up your order?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The latter is where all the people that refuse to use the self serve checkouts at grocery stores and Walmart because "I don't work there!"

The same people that chose to pump their own gas back in the day because it saved a few cents/gallon.

 

[Leadeye]

The latter is where all the people that refuse to use the self serve checkouts at grocery stores and Walmart because "I don't work there!"

Maybe some mix of a traditional restaurant and fast food, like a quick menu section.

 

[Leadeye]

A market to pay more to have people screw up your order?

I'm trying to look for a positive aspect. To be truthful it's been a long time since I was in a fast food place. Friends tell me it's all done kiosk style these days.

 

[KLB]

The same people that chose to pump their own gas back in the day because it saved a few cents/gallon.

Often saved time too. Of course I had to clean my own windshield when I did.

 

[miguel]

None of this applies anymore. Fast food quit being fast some years back.

It's even been years since I had to quit reminding myself of this, by pulling out of the drive through line, after minutes and minutes of sitting idle.

I thought I was the only one!

 

[KLB]

I'm trying to look for a positive aspect. To be truthful it's been a long time since I was in a fast food place. Friends tell me it's all done kiosk style these days.

Most people are too lazy to get out of their cars, so most of it is drive through. Except in the cities where people aren't driving all the time.

When I go to one, I usually will go inside. It is usually a lot faster. Last time I went to a Dunkin Doughnuts, I parked, went in and got my doughnuts, and left in the time the car line moved one or two car lengths. I would not even have made it to order yet. There was no line inside.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Often saved time too.

Most of us are too young to remember the day when you would go to the store, place an order, and wait for the shop keeper to fill your order to take home. I think it was Piggly Wiggly that was the first one that allowed the customer to go in and select their own goods. I wonder if people complained about “I don’t work for them” back then too.

 

[Ingomike]

Most of us are too young to remember the day when you would go to the store, place an order, and wait for the shop keeper to fill your order to take home. I think it was Piggly Wiggly that was the first one that allowed the customer to go in and select their own goods. I wonder if people complained about “I don’t work for them” back then too.

I’m sure they did.

 

[jamil]

I believe for the most part that pay for entry level employment will pay what the market demands.
One of the killers to that thinking is say, in small town America where there are 150 kids and only 20 jobs that are available locally.

Had just re-read this. I agree on the first part. Somewhat on the second, where in small town America, one fast food restaurant isn't going to employ all the students. If we can keep farming out of the hands of ClownWorld™ though, where they think cow farts is a bigger problem than keeping people fed, there is probably hard work available to even small town America if they want it.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I’m sure they did.

I’m not so sure. I would imagine the time savings was worth it—especially after the grocery cart was invented.

 

[Ingomike]

I’m not so sure. I would imagine the time savings was worth it—especially after the grocery cart was invented.

The thing that was different than the current situation was the change did not happen at Joe’s General Store, the supermarket was built outside of town with the newfangled way, and eventually Joe’s just closed.

Today the very stores that used to sell us on service are now taking service away.

 

[jamil]

The thing that was different than the current situation was the change did not happen at Joe’s General Store, the supermarket was built outside of town with the newfangled way, and eventually Joe’s just closed.

Today the very stores that used to sell us on service are now taking service away.

Remember Service Merchandise? You order **** and they bring it out. They gone.

Ikea, similar setup. Except, they have a show room and some small merchandise in other areas where you can put merchandise in your cart. If you want to buy the bigger stuff you see in the showroom you take a ticket, look up what bin it's in in the warehouse, and go get it yourself. Take it to the checkout, and pay for it. I don't see Ikea going out of business organically. But I suppose some stores can get closed because of the aftermath of the retarded pandemic shutdown and Bidenomics.

I think it doesn't really matter if your store today changes how they serve you other than both ways existing until consumers decide which one they prefer. If Joe's General Store decided to make things more self service I think the idea of self-service would not have caught on as easily. Because a lot of people who like the way Joe's store works. It's what they're used to. Change it and they'll complain enough that Joe will probably revert back.

Put the new way in competition to the old way and someone's gonna win and someone's gonna lose. Joe either went out of business or changed his store to compete with the newfangled one at that point.

 

[Ingomike]

Remember Service Merchandise? You order **** and they bring it out. They gone.

Ikea, similar setup. Except, they have a show room and some small merchandise in other areas where you can put merchandise in your cart. If you want to buy the bigger stuff you see in the showroom you take a ticket, look up what bin it's in in the warehouse, and go get it yourself. Take it to the checkout, and pay for it. I don't see Ikea going out of business organically. But I suppose some stores can get closed because of the aftermath of the retarded pandemic shutdown and Bidenomics.

I think it doesn't really matter if your store today changes how they serve you other than both ways existing until consumers decide which one they prefer. If Joe's General Store decided to make things more self service I think the idea of self-service would not have caught on as easily. Because a lot of people who like the way Joe's store works. It's what they're used to. Change it and they'll complain enough that Joe will probably revert back.

Put the new way in competition to the old way and someone's gonna win and someone's gonna lose. Joe either went out of business or changed his store to compete with the newfangled one at that point.

That is a way to articulate the point if one wanted to use several times the number of words to say the same thing…

 

[jamil]

That is a way to articulate the point if one wanted to use several times the number of words to say the same thing…

I’m off work. You’re not getting a point. You’re getting a thought stream.

 

[HoosierLife]

I don't believe that is true.
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Old school, like the 1950s McDonald when Crock was recruiting husband wife duos to manage one restaurant solely.

 

[HoosierLife]

The same people that chose to pump their own gas back in the day because it saved a few cents/gallon.

Dude I would totally pay $.20+ more for someone to pump my gas.