From the FOP president Chuck Canterbury
fopchuck@aol.com
Copied From the FOP Journal February 2013
As to our current stand on issues that involve violence in schools our platform is as follows;
1) The mental health records of persons who should be barred from purchasing firearms must be included in the back ground check System. The "Gun control act of 1968 bars from them the ownership of firearms, but there has never been a system in place other than an honor system at the point of sale.
2) The FOP has a standing resolution, passed at the 1993 national convention, to support the assault weapons ban as passed in 1994. This vote was recorded as a ballot vote and passed with an overwhelming margin. It is my duty as president to uphold the resolution until directed by the delegates to do otherwise. We will take a look at any proposals, but it is not our goal to support a ban more inclusive than the 1994 law.
3 ) The FOP has supported background checks on firearms purchases and we will continue to do so. In the 1990's a compromise was offered to close the gun show loopholes and it was not accepted. We will again advocate for an instant check system, which is already in place in a number of states.
4) We have already written a letter to Vice President Joe Bidden requesting that the ATF is provided with the leadership resources and manpower necessary to enforce the laws already on the books. New laws cannot be enforced if there are not sufficient resources to enforce those we already have.
I am thinking he needs to get a ton of emails.
They are looking for $$'s, Political Favors and their individual 15 Minutes of Fleeting Fame
Kudos to you sir and I can tell you meant it just by reading some of your other posts on the subject of recent events related to the RTKBA.Well thanks! And I do mean it. I will having nothing to do with anything or anyone that is anti gun. Anti gunners have some sort of perverted mentality that I cannot understand.
Yup..I've been a member of the local Indianapolis FOP since I came on IPD. I've yet to see any benefit from the NATIONAL organization, but the LOCAL lodge has been great. I won't cut off my nose to spite my face and defund the local lodge because of the national's position.
Frankly, I there should be a nationwide demand for a re-vote on that 2 decade old policy and see what the current members think. Its a very different time today than it was in the early Clinton era years.
From the FOP president Chuck Canterbury
fopchuck@aol.com
Copied From the FOP Journal February 2013
As to our current stand on issues that involve violence in schools our platform is as follows;
1) The mental health records of persons who should be barred from purchasing firearms must be included in the back ground check System. The "Gun control act of 1968 bars from them the ownership of firearms, but there has never been a system in place other than an honor system at the point of sale.
2) The FOP has a standing resolution, passed at the 1993 national convention, to support the assault weapons ban as passed in 1994. This vote was recorded as a ballot vote and passed with an overwhelming margin. It is my duty as president to uphold the resolution until directed by the delegates to do otherwise. We will take a look at any proposals, but it is not our goal to support a ban more inclusive than the 1994 law.
3 ) The FOP has supported background checks on firearms purchases and we will continue to do so. In the 1990's a compromise was offered to close the gun show loopholes and it was not accepted. We will again advocate for an instant check system, which is already in place in a number of states.
4) We have already written a letter to Vice President Joe Bidden requesting that the ATF is provided with the leadership resources and manpower necessary to enforce the laws already on the books. New laws cannot be enforced if there are not sufficient resources to enforce those we already have.
I am thinking he needs to get a ton of emails.
Well.......
I got my Feb. copy of The FOP Journal today and after reading the FOP Presidents message I decided to let him know exactly how I feel about the "official" stance of the FOP concerning "Assault weapons"
Here's my e-mail to him.
I've been an FOP member since 1974 so I'm not speaking up as a novice in this matter.
You people have made the FOP the laughing stock of the American firearms community and have further added to the "US vs THEM" mentality in America.
Your support of the unconstitutional proposals to ban a certain type of weapon based entirely on it's looks is just as stupid as blaming all crime on a given group of people because you don't like their looks.
If you think for one minute that the Public will stand idly by and have their rights trampled while the Law Enforcement Community gets a pass on those Draconian laws you are as delusional as those numbskulls in Washington.
Already Firearms suppliers are denying sales to Departments in the States stupid enough to jump on the purely emotional bandwagon resulting from the recent tragedies.
The 1993 resolution that you refer to is Ancient History.
It was voted on 19 years ago when the political atmosphere wasn't as volatile as it is today.
I strongly suggest that you take a poll of the current FOP Membership before you go off half cocked and support something that is NOT in the best interest of the FOP members who elected you.
The 1993 resolution that I mention was the FOP's support of the Clinton AWB which I protested back then as well.
I'm fed up with people purporting to represent me in these issues when they have never asked my opinion!!!
I agree, but don't expect a response worth reading.
Well.......
I got my Feb. copy of The FOP Journal today and after reading the FOP Presidents message I decided to let him know exactly how I feel about the "official" stance of the FOP concerning "Assault weapons"
Here's my e-mail to him.
I've been an FOP member since 1974 so I'm not speaking up as a novice in this matter.
You people have made the FOP the laughing stock of the American firearms community and have further added to the "US vs THEM" mentality in America.
Your support of the unconstitutional proposals to ban a certain type of weapon based entirely on it's looks is just as stupid as blaming all crime on a given group of people because you don't like their looks.
If you think for one minute that the Public will stand idly by and have their rights trampled while the Law Enforcement Community gets a pass on those Draconian laws you are as delusional as those numbskulls in Washington.
Already Firearms suppliers are denying sales to Departments in the States stupid enough to jump on the purely emotional bandwagon resulting from the recent tragedies.
The 1993 resolution that you refer to is Ancient History.
It was voted on 19 years ago when the political atmosphere wasn't as volatile as it is today.
I strongly suggest that you take a poll of the current FOP Membership before you go off half cocked and support something that is NOT in the best interest of the FOP members who elected you.
The 1993 resolution that I mention was the FOP's support of the Clinton AWB which I protested back then as well.
I'm fed up with people purporting to represent me in these issues when they have never asked my opinion!!!
I have not heard from him since I emailed him. In all honesty I have doubts that he himself supports any more laws. He is from sc. But like unclemike wrote, they need to poll the members on the issue. Not go off a 19 year old survey. Many things change in 19 years.
Thanks for your very uniformed opinion.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:54 PM, [IndyDave1776] wrote:
It has been brought to my attention that you are responsible for the following being posted in the February FOP journal:
Copied From the FOP Journal February 2013
As to our current stand on issues that involve violence in schools our platform is as follows;
1) The mental health records of persons who should be barred from purchasing firearms must be included in the back ground check System. The "Gun control act of 1968 bars from them the ownership of firearms, but there has never been a system in place other than an honor system at the point of sale.
2) The FOP has a standing resolution, passed at the 1993 national convention, to support the assault weapons ban as passed in 1994. This vote was recorded as a ballot vote and passed with an overwhelming margin. It is my duty as president to uphold the resolution until directed by the delegates to do otherwise. We will take a look at any proposals, but it is not our goal to support a ban more inclusive than the 1994 law.
3 ) The FOP has supported background checks on firearms purchases and we will continue to do so. In the 1990's a compromise was offered to close the gun show loopholes and it was not accepted. We will again advocate for an instant check system, which is already in place in a number of states.
4) We have already written a letter to Vice President Joe Bidden requesting that the ATF is provided with the leadership resources and manpower necessary to enforce the laws already on the books. New laws cannot be enforced if there are not sufficient resources to enforce those we already have.
Assuming that I have been correctly informed, you, sir, are an enemy of the Constitution and an enemy of the American people.
[IndyDave1776]
2) The FOP has a standing resolution, passed at the 1993 national convention, to support the assault weapons ban as passed in 1994. This vote was recorded as a ballot vote and passed with an overwhelming margin. It is my duty as president to uphold the resolution until directed by the delegates to do otherwise. We will take a look at any proposals, but it is not our goal to support a ban more inclusive than the 1994 law.
That won't be until August 11-15, 2013.Well, he left himself some outs if you ask me:
#1: He conditioned the stance based on a resolution, and made sure to point out it easily could be changed based upon direction of the delegates.
#2: The 1994 is what they supported and still support. While this limits capacity of magazines, it did nothing really in terms of "assault rifles." I purchased one AK and two ARs during the ban.
After reading some of Facebook pages, sounds like they might be stepping back. I think the delegates need to meet again, and a vote of the membership needs to be taken again.
Well, he left himself some outs if you ask me:
#1: He conditioned the stance based on a resolution, and made sure to point out it easily could be changed based upon direction of the delegates.
#2: The 1994 is what they supported and still support. While this limits capacity of magazines, it did nothing really in terms of "assault rifles." I purchased one AK and two ARs during the ban.
After reading some of Facebook pages, sounds like they might be stepping back. I think the delegates need to meet again, and a vote of the membership needs to be taken again.
That won't be until August 11-15, 2013.
A great deal of damage to our Second Amendment Rights can be done in that six month period by the Anti's who have latched onto the FOP's "apparent" approval of gun control.
We're in a war with the Liberal/Socialists who will use ANY trick, or deception, to further their goal of destroying this Republic.
I sincerely hope that it doesn't escalate to a shooting war but in light of the lunatic statements and actions of the Left I fear that it may only be a matter of time before an incident occurs that is so egregious that the American gun owners feel that they must use their arms to protect their Rights.
God help us if it comes to that.
His answer, at the top with my original message below:
.Thanks for your very uniformed opinion