I should have watched this before the weekend... especially the bit about re-holstering
Gotta make those Four Rules of Gun Safety a part of your life!
I should have watched this before the weekend... especially the bit about re-holstering
Dang I hate it when he doesn't say or do something stupid.
Wow, THREE YEARS to post the second half?
I've seen the verbal command as part of the drawstroke from a few different instructors (some of which have come directly from or been heavily influenced by Yeager/TR), but I'm on the fence about its utility. I understand the reasons for including some kind of verbalization, but if one trains to yell "STOP!" then immediately deliver a burst of rounds on target as seen here, I can also envision the badguy *actually stopping* but still getting smoked because the student didn't take time to assess the effect of his command. That could end very badly from a legal standpoint.
It could be said that the majority of instructors I've trained with have operated under the assumption that if it's time to pull your pistol and go to work, the time for talk is over, and that has generally been my mindset as well. I'd be curious to hear others' thoughts on this, both students and instructors.
I've seen the verbal command as part of the drawstroke from a few different instructors (some of which have come directly from or been heavily influenced by Yeager/TR), but I'm on the fence about its utility.
I don't know this to be the case, but my guess is that it stems from John Farnam's use of "tape loops".
In Fighting Pistol it was explained that the verbalization was done as part of the draw, and not while shooting. We were still advised to not shoot if the person obeyed the verbal command.
It is always possible the BG will drop his gun/knife at the verbal command while seeing that you are drawing your weapon and that you will not have to shoot.
How long were you trained to pause after yelling "STOP!" to determine whether or not the badguy complied?
To that, I would add that one needs to practice for that eventuality, as well. IOW, be careful what you make reflexive through repetition in training.
I would think if you have reason to pull your gun, you MUST then do something to make the person stop doing what they were doing.
Good idea. How 'bout pulling the trigger and putting rounds into the badguy?
What I was getting at in my earlier post re: my prior training is that the time for verbalizing should be BEFORE the gun comes out.
Like the movie line says - "When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
Yes, use of verbal commands should be practiced - this is yet another place where FoF training excels - but I would caution against making it a reflexive part of your drawstroke, especially if you're not going to take the time to evaluate whether or not it worked.
Yelling stop while drawing your gun to shoot is a trick to gain you and edge in the application of violence. You have already made the decision to draw and shoot. You are no longer reading the situation to see if you should shoot. If the other guy pauses great, and if not I am still executing my plan.
What if you give them stop command (actually giving them time to acknowledge) yet they keep coming, apparently unarmed?
An instructor friend of mine used to tell a great story about verbally resetting an opponent's OODA loop. Basically a badguy got the drop on him with a gun, and my friend was unarmed. He said "hey, don't I know your mother?" And in the split second it took the badguy to process that (no, he didn't know his mother), my buddy took the gun right out of his hand. His will to fight evaporated immediately.