disrespectful libertarians hijack CPAC?

[hornadylnl]

I've learned in the last few years that if I'm in agreement with the majority on any issue, I'm probably on the wrong side of it. The fact that the Republicrat Party is against Paul is a pretty good reason to support him. He'd be the only republican to get my vote.

 

[nawainwright]

Every single speaker at CPAC does the same thing. Romney paid all travel and room expenses for his crowd. So your argument doesn't hold water.

Anyway, since this is becoming a liberty bashing thread let me chime in with my 2 cents.

'If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.' You know who said that? The champion of a large sector of the greater conservative movement did--none other than Ronald flippin' Reagan. And he was absolutely correct about that statement. The real basis of modern conservatism is that of classical liberalism or libertarianism, however in recent generations conservatism has been co-opted by disenfranchised progressive socialists. That's right, what makes up the neo-conservitism movement championed by Republicans like George W. Bush, his father alike, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and most of the Republican leaders who have steered the Conservative debate for generations have all been adherents to neoconservative doctrine.

You want to know the problem with neoconservatism? Well, for starters its basic philosophical roots are that of socialism. Yes, neoconservatism is a socialist doctrine. Two of the most influential people in its philosophy were Leo Strauss and Leon Trotsky and yet neoconservatives despise communism without ever knowing their own movement was influenced by the writings of V.I. Lenin's closest comrade turned rival. What's even worse is that neoconservatism preaches an ideology of blind nationalism, confuses the population to the difference between defensive military spending and aggressive military conquest, adopts forms of corporatism (a fascist trait of the merging of state and corporation), and just like its communism brother--will lead to the economic destruction of any society that adopts its tenets.

What the libertarians, Constitutionalists, Classical Liberals or whatever variation of ethos preach are limited government, non-intervention, fiscal responsibility, business partnerships with foreign nations but warn against the consequences of permanent alliances. Basically they want a small government that keeps a military able to protect its sovereignty and legal structure to protect the individual rights granted to us by our creator so that each individual may seek out and create their own destinies so much as their ability and drive may allow.

I for one do not adhere to socialism in any of its forms whether it be communism, fascism, or the self denial closet socialism of the neoconservative movement. I think classical liberalism gave us a good basis of how to govern ourselves; it allows each individual the right to pursue the highest levels of freedom, peace, and prosperity.

Read the Tag Line

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

Only in this great country can two opposing groups exist and be allowed freedom of expression.

 

[Bond 281]

Only in this great country can two opposing groups exist and be allowed freedom of expression.

Was that supposed to be in purple?

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

Was that supposed to be in purple?

yeah I wrote it from my phone

 

[Wink and the Gun]

I'm not a libertarian by any stretch (agree on a few issues), but that article is a biased hatchet job as much as any of the NY Times anti-whoever the current popular figure on the right is. It's like the reporter that went to the Knob Creek Shoot, saw the one vendor with all the nazi memorabilia, and then wrote about how it was just a bunch of ultra fundamentalist racists shooting their guns.

Also, why is winning the CPAC straw poll such a big deal? I would care about as much if McCain somehow won the straw poll - it just doesn't mean anything this far out.

 

[Von Mises]

Jumbo Shrimp
Military Intelligence
Authentic Reproduction
Disrespectful Libertarians...

 

[level.eleven]

Rot-roh.

Looks like Fox News got caught again.

Uncovered: Fox News deceptively used old CPAC footage to smear Ron Paul | The Raw Story

Couple the above deceit with the Fox News staffer, although anonymous, coming out this week admitting they push the establishment Republican agenda how much longer can they continue to use the "Fair and Balanced" tag line?

Why does a right wing news organization have so much animosity toward a Republican candidate?

 

[Prometheus]

Mitt Romney: supporter of socialized medicine and gun control. A Big Government socialist loser like Romney regularly shows popularity at CPAC -- and nobody bats an eye.

But a guy like Ron Paul, who won't put his name on anything unless it is overwhelmingly constitutional, shows popularity at CPAC -- and it must be election fraud! Real Republicans wouldn't dare support a constitutionalist!

QFT.

The NORM is to buy votes to get or stay in office. Republicans are as guilty as democrats in this area.

The leadership in the DNC, just like the GOP, needs to keep raising the debt limit and spending money we don't have to keep getting the votes.

The Tea Party people, including Paul, want to stop that.

The DNC and GOP are going to close ranks and keep the Status qua alive.

 

[rambone]

Here is a clip of all of the spin coming from Fox "News" shows.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeCkZyx83m8]YouTube - FOX NEWS SPINS RON PAUL'S STRAW POLL WIN[/ame]


Here Faux News is shown to use video clips from previous years to deceive viewers as well as Ron Paul himself in an interview.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiSffkYz_rk]YouTube - EPIC MEDIA FAIL: Fox News Caught Faking CPAC Ron Paul Reaction Video[/ame]

 

[Ogre]

Disrespectful Libertarians Hijack CPAC Poll -- And Its Mission - FoxNews.com

This is an opinion piece written by a conservative. Here are some quotes. Full article linked.

*redacted*

I thought the piece was humorous.

What slimy rock did the that piece of garbage (I mean writer) crawl out from under?

 

[Ogre]

Timinmishawauka, can you find a credible source to substantiate your claims, or just a few more bloggers with agendas?