Dept of Agriculture requests SMGs with 30rd mags in 40 S&W...

[87iroc]

USDA needs a way to handle destructive hostile rabbits

Speaking of...anyone seen Bunnykid!! He may want to keep his head down.

 

[87iroc]

That's what I was thinking, field agents stumbling upon a meth lab or a weed field when the owners are there

Hell I carry a gun in the woods for meth heads any more

I was afraid to take my daughter back to the river fishing w/o my trusty red ryder carbine....errr...I mean my pistol. Too many tweakers out there. The girl that they killed in Seymour made me realize how bad they can be when on the stuff.

 

[Bravo-4-2]

They are for a possible sheep uprising.....

 

[jblomenberg16]

That's what I was thinking, field agents stumbling upon a meth lab or a weed field when the owners are there

Hell I carry a gun in the woods for meth heads any more

QFT. I'm concerned about the continued militarization of the different alphabet agencies, but I can't completely disagree with being armed for personal protection. Somehow I think this is less about protection and more about being able to conduct "operations" independent of local law enforcement agencies.

 

[8th SPS USAF]

MP 5's 40 cal?, UMP's 40 cal?

 

[Leadeye]

Every alphabet agency needs more and better guns, just ask the guys selling them.

 

[Pmpkn8r]

You know, there's an awful lot more knee jerk reactions and tin foil hat wearers here than I thought I'd see. I guess I'll get used to it.

When I was registered as a Customs and Border Clearing Agent through the customs dept. for the military for a mission overseas all that was done under the USDA! The USDA is a pretty big entity. After talking to the officers that I met there, and hearing the stories that I did about the crap they went through, I have absolutely no problem with them carrying SMG's. None whatsoever. Hell, I'd let them carry a lot bigger than a .40 if it were up to me. They end up dealing with a lot of crazy crap. People are unbelievable.

 

[in625shooter]

Why would the USDA be in a position to stumble onto anything? Where exactly does one draw the line? Do we wait till County Clerks and Property tax assessors are rolling around in MRAPS with Ma Duece on the roof just in case?

QFT. I'm concerned about the continued militarization of the different alphabet agencies, but I can't completely disagree with being armed for personal protection. Somehow I think this is less about protection and more about being able to conduct "operations" independent of local law enforcement agencies.

While there is a lot of conclusion jumping USDA and DEPT of Agriculture is over a lot of agencies (or they fall within the) that do have an enforcement mission. Several Federal LE agencies get their pay routed through DEPT of Agriculture. Several within the DEPT of Justice. Acquisitions are not a whole lot different. Doesn't mean a whole lot unless one is into conspiracy theories. If that applies then by all means keep spreading!!!

You know, there's an awful lot more knee jerk reactions and tin foil hat wearers here than I thought I'd see. I guess I'll get used to it.

When I was registered as a Customs and Border Clearing Agent through the customs dept. for the military for a mission overseas all that was done under the USDA! The USDA is a pretty big entity. After talking to the officers that I met there, and hearing the stories that I did about the crap they went through, I have absolutely no problem with them carrying SMG's. None whatsoever. Hell, I'd let them carry a lot bigger than a .40 if it were up to me. They end up dealing with a lot of crazy crap. People are unbelievable.

^^THIS^^

 

[M67]

You know, there's an awful lot more knee jerk reactions and tin foil hat wearers here than I thought I'd see. I guess I'll get used to it.

HEY!!! You start thinking like everyone else or we'll start calling you sheeple!!


Purple where implied

 

[Bennettjh]

You know, there's an awful lot more knee jerk reactions and tin foil hat wearers here than I thought I'd see. I guess I'll get used to it.

 

[k1500]

Why can't they just buy AR-15's that are already purchased by many other departments?

 

[in625shooter]

Why can't they just buy AR-15's that are already purchased by many other departments?

For a variety of reasons but the 2 main ones is ammo compatibility with their handguns (1 caliber for training/duty on 2 different systems) and also while the AR platform gives better performance on certain "obstacles" and longer range there is more risk of over penetration than a with a sub gun. 6 of 1 half dozen of the other.
For the ones thinking a little too deep and bring it up while BG's with body armor could be a concern any kind of "raid" they will have M4 in some hands especially if it is preplanned and there would be some info not to mention M/'s on the scene hours before calling in info as well.

 

[captcarl]

PIGS?! Wild pigs have a negative impact on agriculture. .40S&W not a first (or top 5) choice tho? Maybe compatibility with sidearm? Two round burst, heck yea tho. Disposal is a different game than hunting right??!

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Dept. of Agriculture Orders Ballistic Body Armor

 

[Pmpkn8r]

Again, customs and border protection in some weird way fall under the usda. There's no reason for them to not order body armor. That's just a generalization. That's like saying "America is ordering body armor!" Lol

 

[M67]

Merica

 

[Old_grunt]

Just how many 'Alphabet' agencies have firearms, ordering or have ordered firearms? What is the (sensible) reasoning, behind it all?

 

[M67]

Maybe the guns they have are old, outdated, or banged all to hell? Increased employment means you have to have more firearms (more agents), excess funds that need spending.......

Call the USDA head quarters and ask.