Delisting an SBR

[cobber]

I’m planning to restore an SBR to its pistol configuration. The ATF tells that removing the stock is all I have to do, and it can be sold as a pistol.
Alternatively I hear that one should remove the engraved name and city from the receiver as well. Is there anyone with INGO who can help with this procedure?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So, it began life as a pistol?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Is this on a 4 or in a trust?

 

[chezuki]

Unlike Kirk, I am not a lawyer, but here is my understanding.

The ATF recommends removing it from the registry, but not required.

If I no longer want a short-barreled rifle (SBR) and I remove the “brace,” do I need to contact the NFA to un-register my SBR with an attached “stabilizing brace”? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

It is not a requirement to remove your SBR from the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR); however, ATF highly recommends you notify the Government Services Branch (GSB) of the National Firearms Act Division to remove the firearm from the NFRTR registry. All NFRTR updates...

www.atf.gov

There are several variables.

IF it BEGAN life as a pistol, you can remove the stock and it becomes a pistol again. IF it BEGAN life as a rifle, you can put a 16”+ upper on it and it becomes a rifle again.

An individual could then buy and sell these as desired.

I am not sure how this works with a form 1 lower build, but it likely depends on how the lower was classified on the original 4473.

If the item is on a trust, it could be a little more complicated to sell, depending on how the trust is written and your role on the trust.

I see no reason why the engraving would need to be removed.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Unlike Kirk, I am not a lawyer, but here is my understanding.

The ATF recommends removing it from the registry, but not required.

If I no longer want a short-barreled rifle (SBR) and I remove the “brace,” do I need to contact the NFA to un-register my SBR with an attached “stabilizing brace”? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

It is not a requirement to remove your SBR from the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR); however, ATF highly recommends you notify the Government Services Branch (GSB) of the National Firearms Act Division to remove the firearm from the NFRTR registry. All NFRTR updates...

www.atf.gov

There are several variables.

IF it BEGAN life as a pistol, you can remove the stock and it becomes a pistol again. IF it BEGAN life as a rifle, you can put a 16”+ upper on it and it becomes a rifle again.

An individual could then buy and sell these as desired.

I am not sure how this works with a form 1 lower build, but it likely depends on how the lower was classified on the original 4473.

If the item is on a trust, it could be a little more complicated to sell, depending on how the trust is written and your role on the trust.

I see no reason why the engraving would need to be removed.

To add a finer point to Chez's take, if the lower started as a bare lower, it can be whatever you want. Pistol or rifle.

I'm sure @Squirt239 could take care of removing the etch and refinishing. @AllenM as well.

 

[cobber]

So, it began life as a pistol?

Yes.

 

[cobber]

Is this on a 4 or in a trust?

Form 4. I think. I'll check. Been awhile.

 

[cobber]

To add a finer point to Chez's take, if the lower started as a bare lower, it can be whatever you want. Pistol or rifle.

I'm sure @Squirt239 could take care of removing the etch and refinishing. @AllenM as well.

AllenM did the engraving, but it was years ago. Years.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Unlike Kirk, I am not a lawyer, but here is my understanding.

More than one lawyer in this thread.

Cob, you can take a Morgan County Speed Wrench to it or convert it to a pistol. Notify F Troop f the change of status, save copies of letter, re-do trust if you did one, don't ask me about the $200 refund.

Going to include this in my new CLE seminar. Thanks for idea. (Topic not covered enough)

 

[rb288]

A while back, I sbs'd a Vepr 12 shotgun.
I had an approved form 1 on file.
Before I cut the barrel, I changed my mind and chose NOT do it and notified the ATF to remove it from the data base as a sbs as I was not going to follow through with it.
I got a letter ftom them that it was removed and no longer an considered an sbs.
I did NOT get a refund of my $200.
That's the only experience I have along those lines.