Damned if you do. Damed if you don't.

[findingZzero]

ISIS gave up waiting for US weapons. I expect if we gave them to more moderate forces in Syria, ISIS would have overwhelmed and taken them. The Kurds couldn't stop them. Instead, they turned east and got US weapons from Iraq. You have to admire their tactics/strategy if not their world view. I wonder what the region would look like if we never got involved in Iraq. We probably helped accelerate what's going on there now. Saddam, Muamar, we hardly knew ya... Your thoughts?

 

[OneShotFOGE]

Well, we are going to start targeting ISIS soon so we are still involved.

Obama authorizes targeted airstrikes in Iraq against Islamic militants, along with airdrops

 

[hoosierdoc]

Bush went in and stopped the rape rooms. Obama flees and brings on forced genital mutilation. Republican war on women I guess.

 

[churchmouse]

That entire region has been fighting since dirt was invented. If there was no oil there is would mean no more than a bump on a gnats A$$

 

[mrjarrell]

Bush went in and stopped the rape rooms. Obama flees and brings on forced genital mutilation. Republican war on women I guess.

Umm...the withdrawal date from Iraq was set by the Bush administration, not the current one. They just carried through on the deal we had set in place.

 

[drillsgt]

Umm...the withdrawal date from Iraq was set by the Bush administration, not the current one. They just carried through on the deal we had set in place.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Leo]

That entire region has been fighting since dirt was invented. If there was no oil there is would mean no more than a bump on a gnats A$$

Certainly there are influences having to do with oil. In my opinion, even if oil were to become suddenly valueless, the problem would still exsist. When you have that many people who are allowed no teaching in their life except the philosophy of islam, they will always be a problem for any civilized, peaceful race of people on the face of the earth. When they do not have non islamic neighbors to molest, they turn on each other over the degrees of islamic observance. Kill, steal, destroy, repeat........

 

[churchmouse]

Certainly there are influences having to do with oil. In my opinion, even if oil were to become suddenly valueless, the problem would still exsist. When you have that many people who are allowed no teaching in their life except the philosophy of islam, they will always be a problem for any civilized, peaceful race of people on the face of the earth. When they do not have non islamic neighbors to molest, they turn on each other over the degrees of islamic observance. Kill, steal, destroy, repeat........

Exactly.
That was the intent of my post. They are cave dwellers for the most part compared to civilized nations. They were continually fighting before oil was meaningful as to my dirt statement.
All oil has done is make them powerful and rich so as to carry Islam into the world.

 

[indiucky]

Bush went in and stopped the rape rooms. Obama flees and brings on forced genital mutilation. Republican war on women I guess.

You have got to admire the War on Women as waged by the Democrats...At least they had Leaders like Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton who were panting and sweating on the front lines and not afraid to use alcohol, cigars, and their powerful postitons to get right into it.....

They are regular Audie Murphy's when it comes to waging "War on Women..."

 

[indiucky]

All oil has done is make them powerful and rich so as to carry Islam into the world.

Technically they were trying that before anyone knew what oil was......

Thank "Allah" that Jehova's Witness and the Mormon's don't use the same techniques of conversion because my little subdivision would be full of severed heads stuck on privacy fences.....

 

[ViperJock]

Umm...the withdrawal date from Iraq was set by the Bush administration, not the current one. They just carried through on the deal we had set in place.

Thats ridiculous. Bush wasn't there to make the decision to stay longer or not. Planning a withdrawal time in expectation of being able to withdraw is not the same thing as following the plan regardless of the situation on the ground.

 

[HoughMade]

Don't you people understand? A "War of Women" involves women paying $20 a month for their own birth control.

Genital mutilation, honor killings, complete absence of civil rights, rape as political tool....that's not a war, that just us not understanding that their cultural traditions are just as valid as ours.....which justifies terrorist attacks.

 

[indiucky]

Thats ridiculous. Bush wasn't there to make the decision to stay longer or not. Planning a withdrawal time in expectation of being able to withdraw is not the same thing as following the plan regardless of the situation on the ground.

You have got to understand that Bush is a Republican, Christian and from Texas.....Butters has very strong feelings about "those people" and sometimes lets that cloud his thinking....A common trait amongst xenophobes, bigots, and apparently anarchists as well....

 

[hornadylnl]

I should drive by the recruiters office on the way home and see how long the line is.

 

[Fred78]

U.S. did the all the fighten and china got the oil now thats what I call a real deal.

 

[mrjarrell]

Thats ridiculous. Bush wasn't there to make the decision to stay longer or not. Planning a withdrawal time in expectation of being able to withdraw is not the same thing as following the plan regardless of the situation on the ground.

Ridiculous or not, that's how things rolled out. The Bush admin set the timetable and Obama followed it through. The situation on the ground in Iraq was nice and peaceful, for the most part and the Iraqi government said they could handle it. Add in the fact that the American people wanted our guys and gals home and there wasn't a lot of choice. The Iraqis wanted us gone and we wanted us gone.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

I should drive by the recruiters office on the way home and see how long the line is.

The good looking dude in line who gives you the wink and the gun will be me.

 

[findingZzero]

The good looking dude in line who gives you the wink and the gun will be me.

Don't tell, and I won't ask.

 

[Sybaris]

Yeah, it's a Catch-22. At least with Saddam in power he kept those rascals in check. From here on out it's almost like playing Whack-A-Mole

 

[printcraft]

[h=2]Damned if you do. Damed if you don't.[/h]

Well, yeah.
It seems that there are not any civilized people in that part of the world........ for some reason..........