30-30 would absolutely destroy a coyote, no question there. My vote would be the .243 because of the versatility of the cartridge. Although if the maximum distance is only 100 to 150 yards, you could probably even use something as small as a .17 HMR with good shot placement. I know some farmers in New Castle that use a .17 for their Coyote problems. Very little recoil with rimfire.
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Coyote hunting... .223, .243, or .30-30?
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He's not at all interested in "saving" the coyote...
If he's going to invest in (or be given one...ahem) a new rifle, it won't be in .22-250 at all.
I really do appreciate everyone's input on this.
I've actually begun to do a little price comparison shopping. Just wish Walmart didn't make it so difficult to look up their firearms prices online.
I was going to jump in and post the same thing. A 17hmr at 100yds would take a down a coyote no problem. Cheap gun, cheaper ammo and at that distance you don't need an expensive scope either. Probably all set up and ready to go at $300 or so, and that includes 50 rounds of ammo. Something like a Savage 93. Mine is spot on at 100yds and I've taken coyotes and foxes with it.
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Amish farmers use the 12 gauge shotgun and 00 buck in Wells and Dekalb counties. That is what they have told me. I don't think they are lying.
There are a good number of people out there that use 12ga + 00 buck for coyote hunting. Gotta be in relatively close ranges, too.
He does have a 12ga - but I don't know that his barrel has removable chokes. Launching 00 buck out at the distances he'd need just may not be all that practical.
If we're going to talk about what "would work" - like the .17hmr - I'd say that he'd just as likely use his 10/22 or borrow a .22 mag from his brother.
Ongoing saga with him. Lots of ideas - no time. I remember him saying about 10 years ago that he wanted a .243 Win in order to start coyote hunting. But this was before he owned the land/livestock that he has now.
If no attachment to 30-30 sell or trade for 223. Ammo is cheap,and it shoots soft with more range. If on a budget but a scope on and be done. Bushnell has rebate on Trophy xlt right now.
If going 243 get 12 twist to shoot light bullets with. I have a 1-9 utilizing 80-100 grain pills. Leaves a hole you could stick your arm through
I guess who cares if not having pelts.
If going 243 get 12 twist to shoot light bullets with. I have a 1-9 utilizing 80-100 grain pills. Leaves a hole you could stick your arm through
I guess who cares if not having pelts.
Since cost is a concern, and since it might be best for him to use a rifle he's more used to, he could use his .30-30 to take care of the problem with either a slip-on recoil bad, or he could get one of the really nice wearable recoil pads made by PAST.
I use the PAST for shooting off of the bench or even prone with my .30-06, and I can shoot all day with it without any pain whatsoever.
They make several different version with different pad thicknesses to allow the shooter to balance how it will absorb recoil with comfort.
That should make the sting out of the recoil.
It's a bit surprising to hear someone say the .30-30 has hard recoil, but maybe his rifle has a lousy butt pad, or maybe he's just recoil sensitive.
He can take measures to mitigate the punch while sighting in and practicing, but he probably won't even feel it when shooting a yodel dog.
I use the PAST for shooting off of the bench or even prone with my .30-06, and I can shoot all day with it without any pain whatsoever.
They make several different version with different pad thicknesses to allow the shooter to balance how it will absorb recoil with comfort.
That should make the sting out of the recoil.
It's a bit surprising to hear someone say the .30-30 has hard recoil, but maybe his rifle has a lousy butt pad, or maybe he's just recoil sensitive.
He can take measures to mitigate the punch while sighting in and practicing, but he probably won't even feel it when shooting a yodel dog.
Update to the Update:
I got him a Ruger American compact in .223 and a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x40 AO w/ BDC. Vortex Optics - Crossfire II 4-12x40 AO V-Plex
He about cried when he opened it!
I also got him 40 rds of Wolf 55 gr "plinking ammo", and ~40 rds of JSP / HP 55 gr brass-cased hunting ammo.
A few days after Christmas, he bought himself some appropriate rings (Weaver, I believe) and set out to get it bore-sighted and then sighted in.
He really is tickled over his present!
I got him a Ruger American compact in .223 and a Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x40 AO w/ BDC. Vortex Optics - Crossfire II 4-12x40 AO V-Plex
He about cried when he opened it!
I also got him 40 rds of Wolf 55 gr "plinking ammo", and ~40 rds of JSP / HP 55 gr brass-cased hunting ammo.
A few days after Christmas, he bought himself some appropriate rings (Weaver, I believe) and set out to get it bore-sighted and then sighted in.
He really is tickled over his present!
You did good. Borrowing the brothers .22WMR would have been cheaper, but where's the Christmas fun in that?
Sez You!
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